50s women pension judgement: How the Court of Appeal rejected their case

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Sir Terence Etherton, Master of the Rolls

I have spent this morning reading the 21,000 word judgement of the Court of Appeal led by the Master of the Rolls, Sir Terence Etherton.

For the faint hearted I warn you this will make grim reading. But I think the women who have fought so hard to get their pensions back need to be properly informed about the logic used by the judges to come to their decision. It doesn’t mean I agree with it.

Their judgement will cause widespread misery and angst for the women themselves and total delight for the government, ministers, the Department for Work and Pensions and the small number of vocal detractors, mainly from the financial advice and private pensions industry, who didn’t want the women to get a penny.

Appeal on four grounds

The appeal was on four main grounds each of which were dismissed by the judges. Since it is a judicial review it depended a lot on case law which ranged from an immigration case, the bedroom tax, to a sex change case and to EU law and the Convention of Human Rights. It even included a novel way of approaching the law to consultation from Michael Mansfield QC.

To a lay person the case law might sound bizarre but the aim of the lawyers representing the women is to draw out rulings from these diverse set of cases to benefit the cause of the 50swomen to get their money back.

The four grounds for appeal were age discrimination according to an article from the European Convention of Human Rights; indirect sex discrimination or sex/age discrimination;notification and delay.

On the first case the judges rejected it. – citing they could not overrule an Act of Parliament.

“Despite that evidence and despite the sympathy that we, like the members of the Divisional Court, feel for the Appellants and other women in their position, we are satisfied that this is not a case where the court can interfere with the decisions taken through the Parliamentary process. “

They did concede that women got lower state pensions than men.

Women pensioners’ life expectancy – a strain on public fiances

“DWP figures in August 2018 for the mean weekly amount of state pension for men was £158.87 and for women £131.27.  Though they may have shorter life expectancy, men will still receive much more state pension than women even taking into account that women live for two years longer.  That does not, however, undermine the point that the SSWP [ Secretary of State for DWP] makes that longer life expectancy for women places a strain on public finances,(my emphasis) even if they would have received a lower pension over the years 60 – 65 than a man would receive.”

They rejected the indirect and age/ sex discrimination saying any EU directives allowing a differential age for men and women were a temporary measure.

women carry out 60 per cent more unpaid work than men

The judges note the argument that 50s women are hard done by. They quote facts” that women carry out an average of 60 per cent more unpaid work than men; 86 per cent of single parents are women and single parents have a higher risk of poverty than any other household type.  In the 50 – 64 year old age group, women are much more likely to give up work than men because of caring responsibilities.  The Appellants submit that it is therefore indirectly discriminatory, subject to the question of justification, for the state pension to be withdrawn from them because their gender adversely affected their ability to earn a living.”

But they recoil from accepting the arguments for fear that a victory would lead to a flood of new demands from other groups.

“it becomes clear what a significant expansion of the law would result from such a broad application … It is undoubtedly the case that many groups have traditionally suffered discrimination in the workplace because their protected characteristic meant that there were fewer opportunities open to them for advancement in stable, well-paid work.  That is the case not only for women but for disabled people, for lone parents, for some BME groups and for transgender people.”

They conclude that the state pension is a universal not a means tested benefit therefore it should not be used to right problems caused by discrimination – that should be left to other measures in the political field.

“In our judgement.. there is no sufficient causal link here between the withdrawal of the state pension from women in the age group 60 to 65 and the disadvantage caused to that group.  The fact that poorer people are likely to experience a more serious adverse effect from the withdrawal of the pension and that groups who have historically been the victims of discrimination in the workplace are more likely to be poor does not make it indirectly discriminatory to apply the same criterion for eligibility to everyone.”

DWP gave ” adequate and reasonable notification”

On consultation they buy the argument from the DWP that there was enough consultation going back to 1991 when the pension age change was first debated and they cast doubt on even sending a direct mail to everyone on the grounds that people might not read it anyway..

” We therefore dismiss Ground 3 of the appeal on the basis that there was no duty to notify those affected by the change in state pension age and that the Divisional Court were entitled to conclude as a fact that there has been adequate and reasonable notification given by the publicity campaigns implemented by the Department over a number of years.”

Criticism of Ms Justice Lang

Finally they condemn Ms Justice Lang for allowing the judicial review in the first place on the grounds that it was already out of time.

They castigate her for extending the time limit.

“Unlawful legislation is not a continuing unlawful act in the sense that the time limit for challenging it by way of judicial review rolls forward for as long as the legislation continues to apply.  If that were the test, there would effectively be no time limit for challenging primary or secondary legislation or for that matter administrative conduct which continues to affect a claimant unless or until the action is withdrawn or revised.”   

Lawyers for BackTo60 have asked the judges for permission to appeal their judgement.

Their judgement today shows what a big struggle it is to convince people of their case but it doesn’t meant it is wrong to fight this injustice for 3.8 million people.

269 thoughts on “50s women pension judgement: How the Court of Appeal rejected their case”

    • 1950’s women have been discriminated all our lives and to be honest this is just about the last straw I truly believed we lived in a fair society, however I have proof we don’t It’s all government dictatorship Blanket ban on media coverage So so disillusioned

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  4. Unfortunately our government is totally out of touch with the people they govern. We need a fairer more equal society, one where woman are truly tested equally and with respect. They haven’t heard the last of us 💪🏼👊🏻✊🏽

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    • I have worked from the age of 15yrs old ,i have payed contributions all my working life and was told i would get my pension at 60 years old, without any notice i have no choice but to continue working another 6years ,most unfair , everyone else got their pension at 60 ,how can that be fair to us women , i have raised a family and been a houswife and mother with 3children and worked all my life , because i live alone i have to support myself and struggle with illness and keep working if i want to keep my home , to take away my pension at 60 has just about killed me , its diabolical and outrageous that my pension has been stolen from me ,the only word that comes to mind are thieves ,

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      • Ruth. Almost word for word my situation. I have raised four Wonderful children. Worked all my life and still having to work And struggling with Chronic Lymphoedema. (Swollen legs)
        My heart is now in my boots. I see money being Thrown at other people. The system is So very Wrong. But nobody high up cares. As long as their nests are feathered.

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      • I despair that Anne Widecombe believes we got want we asked for. During my working life which will now continue for another 2.3 years as I’m 63, I worked in the private sector. Women were not treated equally and I can give many cases if such. I never had the opportunity to pay into a work based pension, only men were given that after working the designated time. I have been passed over for promotion many times by men and I was always aware their salary was more. After finding out about the governments help towards men nearing pension age the disparity continues. We were never treated equally, and we were not the instigators of women retire at 60 in the first place!

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  6. Dear sir.

    Thank you for the updated information. Although I’m disappointed I expected this outcome.. I do not expect the government to change the retirement age back to 60yrs nor do I really expect any compensation. But I would like the pension to adequate to live on. The basic living wage is around £330 a week. If the government go improve our standards of living, that in my mind would compensate for the extra six years I’ve worked.

    Kindest regards

    Mrs Susan Fiddes

    Sent from my iPhone

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  7. I am appalled by the decision today! I am a survivor of bereavement by suicide, I and my partner worked for the civil service! I was punished by his death, sacked from the civil service because I couldn’t cope! Our child was 8. His widows pension, which he paid into was withheld and as we were not married I could not claim. I paid throughout my working life into a system that has let me down! I am angry beyond measure at the injustice and misogyny that exists in our society! Have no recall at all!

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    • I am gutted about the result of the appeal, it just shows that our government do not care about anyone living in this country. If this should have never gone to appeal why were they happy for us to crowdfund to do it. It is shameful the government treat us this way. Perhaps we should refuse to help our grandchildren and our elderly parents and let the government pay.

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  8. So they cannot go against an act of Parliament yet Boris is trying to do that as we speak and going against international law regarding Brexit. I had my first letter informing me of pension changes in 2012 and I still have that letter I was due to get my pension in 2015 ,not enough time to sort anything else out.

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  9. You have to be part of the club in order to benefit from it. I can’t and wouldn’t offer peerages or peg ups, but then I’m not the PM. Its disgusting, but not surprising that Barristers won their pension fight which was heard by….well Judges who had vested interests in ensuring their pension pots and those of their children & grandchildren were protected and enhanced. The only role for Joe public is to keep working and paying taxes to pay for their privelged lifestyle with perks. I’m so annoyed and fed up of being shafted by this & previous Govts who are happy to comply with the Law when it suits them but trample over international law at a whim.😡😡

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  10. Although I expected this outcome, I did hope that some compensation would be given. I do not agree that adequate notice was given. It moved from age 60 to 62, notice given but very little notice for increase to age 66 and not enough time given to allow savings to help.
    Disgusted at how they can just write this off. Our pension payments are way below what other countries pay, they at least acknowlege the value of the workforce. We paid in for these pensions so they need to pay out.

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  13. I am one of the lucky ones, but devastated for younger women. Particularly galling that many of the women affected will have saved the government an absolute fortune in caring for sick or elderly partners or relatives. A disgrace.

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  14. There can now be no doubt if there ever was that the judiciary is in the hands of the politician. Democracy as we have known it has gone. The rationales given by this judgement are ridiculous and totally incongruent with reality. You can’t compare a disabled persons type of inequality with and able bodied persons inequality for goodness sake. It’s a whole different ball game! What is also clear from this judgement is that our Judges need some education in the field of Inequalities, prejudice and discrimination because they have no idea what they are talking about.

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    • It’s a fix…..decree handed down by a sinister ‘freemasonary’…no doubt, we cannot afford to let them win….& when in a previous judgement, a female judge says that there is ‘no requirement for fairness !’…Unbelievable, why does anyone ever bother to start proceedings, on that basis ?

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  15. Britain is a sovereign money provider, the statement that “the SSWP [ Secretary of State for DWP] makes that longer life expectancy for women places a strain on public finances,” is a canard, especially given that there is never any such strain mentioned when the government funds its pet projects many of which have failed at enormous loss.

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  16. I am absolutely discussed with the outcome today, I was never notified of the age of pension, I am now 64 so I have 2 years left till I get my pension, I suffer with ill health having had 3 strokes so unfortunately unable to work, I always worked even when my children was small and paid full stamp saving towards my pension, what really annoys me is we have immigrants coming into the country who have never paid into the system and get everything, all the MPS getting money for doing nothing except eat drink and yawn and sleep, moan over .

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    • Firstly, immigrants do not “get everything” when they come into the country, that is a myth. Secondly, put the blame for this terribly unfair decision where it belongs with the Tory government and their stooges in the judiciary.

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      • Anne Cook they are being put up in 5 star hotels which I and I am sure many others on here can’t afford to book into or never will be able to. that alone makes them better looked after than us that as paid religiously in to the UK economy to be told you can’t have what we promised you for a further 6 years. I bet they won’t be waiting 6 years before they can claim benefits that they haven’t contributed a penny towards. the whole system needs overhauling its long overdue. its time the UK started looking after its older people instead of treating us as if we do not exist!! I think we should all write to bumbling Boris and bombard him with sacks of letters emails etc we need to make ourselves HEARD 👂LOUD AND CLEAR…. then we may get the message through ( hopefully )

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      • Well they get 4 star hotels free health care and education plus benefits and a home, that to me is everything g and thats for starters for entering a country illegally.

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  17. The appeal failed because it was only considered on points of law not injustice. What is right and fair has never been a remit of the law courts only what is legal and what isn’t.

    I have 44 years of contributions but I’m only 63 and 9 months old so not eligible for a pension. Despite women 6 months older than I have been in receipt of third since they were 60.

    But surely if equality is their aim why do we still receive less money than men?

    You can not pick and choose equality, it’s all or nothing.

    Why do they not be held liable for not introducing an incremental as they first passed this law to be so?

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    • I got my pension at 65yrs 11mths in July 2020 so don’t understand how women six months older than you are getting their state pension!

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    • Tina, one can easily understand, why the likes of Charles Dickens, detested the Judiciary….Perhaps this ridiculous construct of ‘points of Law’ which actually works against what is called a ‘Justice system’….which surely is there so that people can achieve a just & fair verdict (?), needs to be radically overhauled.
      Semms like vast amounts of money is being wasted on what has become a theatre of ‘Sofistry’….(let me demonstrate how cleverly I can argue anything to my advantage & thereby massage my ego),..doesn’t matter if actual people’s lives are being irrevocably damaged & their time wasted.
      WELL DONE M’LUD , what a lot to be proud of !

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    • Tina, one can easily understand, why the likes of Charles Dickens, detested the Judiciary….Perhaps this ridiculous construct of ‘points of Law’ which actually works against what is called a ‘Justice system’….which surely is there so that people can achieve a just & fair verdict (?), needs to be radically overhauled.
      Seems like vast amounts of money is being wasted on what has become a theatre of ‘Sofistry’….(let me demonstrate how cleverly I can argue anything to my advantage & thereby massage my ego),..doesn’t matter if actual people’s lives are being irrevocably damaged & their time wasted.
      WELL DONE M’LUD , what a lot to be proud of !

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  18. How disgusting the outcome, men have won again, sod the woman who bring life into the world, work around the children, cleaning, keeping a house and working to fit around the children, then end up divorced and the men won’t help financially, we also have had our pensions taken off us through a divorce, no wonders we’re falling apart. Let’s hope they can sleep at night. Keep fighting ladies and take it further, where’s Boris he promised to help when he visited Gloucester at the elections.

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  19. The top and bottom of this case I feel is why did they up the age that we received state pension and where did the money go and why can’t we have it back, was it a loan to pay something please explain,

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  21. Those women affected should all get together and if self employed they should refuse to pay tax therefore claiming back their stolen pension money owed to them over the years !
    The government want it both ways ! Tax from the young as well as tex from the old ! Maybe the government are hoping that 60s women will die before getting their pension? Don’t forget it’s money these women have paid in and now have lost out !

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  24. Thank you for the explaination, it seems a no win situation from the start but that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t try. Whatever the outcome, people will make their own judgement.

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  27. Do you think if more names had been used to appeal for the 50 to 55 ladies which was the original claim that instead of two test names it may have got further if thousands had been named.It is easy to say no to 2 ladies on a brief than thousands,or am I being naive. Now is the time for everyone to strike for the day because the next round of rises is just round the corner.

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    • Yes, i think that a percentage (say 5% ?), of the total numbers appealing, would have been fairer….I also think that a sharper focus on the particulars of ‘maladministration’ of the increase in SPA’s for women,rather than any expectation that the changes would be reversed, is more realistic. In the eyes of the general public, there is a lot of confusion over this..

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  28. Maybe government ministers party leaders Councilers mayor’s elected or un elected. Could all take a cut in wages and freebies such as working allowances dinners afternoon lunches. By tomorrow let’s see if they can make the adjustment like we have to. It makes my blood boil at this injustice. I don’t blame St jude for not answering my plea . I blame them and the system they have to answer to the Lord now. And that my friends is the Lord in heaven

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  29. It’s extremely disappointing to have lost the appeal court case but I am not surprised, full restitution on the grounds of discrimination would have been to expensive. It would be far better to have taken the government to court for fraud over the missing funds rather than discrimination. I don’t understand why this government have no respect for the elderly especially elderly women, equally I don’t understand why people vote for them.
    Good luck with going to the Supreme Court but we now have to convince 11 judges which is going to be more difficult.

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    • SEE MY COMMENT TO AN ARTICLE IN THE DAILY MAIL,TODAY, 16the Sept 2020 (a depressing number of people,think that or protest has been about equalising the pension ages…)
      “Yes, as a Waspi woman I have had misgivings about stepping back to see how the Back2 Sixty appeal went…Maladministration is actually what we have been complaining about..PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROTEST & LEGAL ACTION HAS NEVER, BEEN ABOUT THE DESIRABILITY OF EQUALISING THE PENSION AGE FOR MEN & WOMEN ! , A huge number of women did not receive ANY notice. I only discovered a lot later, through a newspaper article that I could expect to receive my pension at 62 yrs 10 months. That never happened (& again, I was never notified) ,yet again went online to discover that the ‘goalposts’ had been moved again to 65 yrs 6 months ! Inexplicably, the tables produced to show the rate of increase in the SPA for women, dependent on ones birth date, also revealed gross unfairness & if this had been done to men, I am sure it would never have been signed off on… There are thousands of us in the same situation….

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    • Not necessarily..hopefully they will be more enlightened & will argue against each other…it isn’t a cut & dried case, is it ? Does the verdict have to be unanimous or will a majority do ?

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  30. Dumped on from a even greater height!!!!! The longer they manage to fob us off, the fewer of us there will be and the less dosh they will have to part with methinks?!?! Funny how BILLIONS have materialised”for the workers”in the last few months eh??????

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  31. well discusting as it is people had a chance to vote labour who qouted figures /put the time in as to what we would get but i am afraid the majority let us down on that

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  32. As a 50’s Woman, I am now going to refuse to look after my Grand children for their parent/parents to work,
    I am also going to refuse to look after/ care for my elderly parents/relatives, and leave it to Social services the benefits system to now cover what I would have done as my duty and for free.
    All because you think we are not worth informing us and not treating us as 2nd class citizens.
    If we agree to do this the government will have to deal with the fallout!!!!

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      • A few well aimed ‘Molotov cocktails’, through the windows of the Department of Work & pensions & the Palace of Westminster, might focus a few minds !
        NO I am not ‘enciting violence’, just voicing an opinion/fantasy scenario….in my utter frustration…If it happens I will not be accepting responsibility……

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  37. As a 50s women in wait for my pension today I was of course saddened.
    To read that there might be an appeal to the Supreme Court saddens me more. Why…..this is the ‘ Kings new clothes’. Brainwashed.
    The Appeal Court was unanimous in their judgement.
    The judges included the Master of ths Rolls and his deputy. How far, even if with merit does ANYBODY think that Supreme Court judges would overturn their judgements.
    This legal team does not understand……ITS NOT A CASE OF DISCRIMINATION. It would have been far more useful to have brought the action as a Breach of Duty of Care…..resulting in damages. Together with the Maxims of Equity.
    Stop giving women false hope and taking their money to support an appeal that is bound to fail.

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    • Yes I agree with you completely. This wasn’t about equality it was about the fact that we were given no notice of the rise in age for our pension which was quickly followed by another sudden increase. That is the basis of the case. Dont feel we were represented well at all. To also talk about hardship etc which undoubtedly is true does not work in a court of law. There you need facts that can be challenged not sentiment. Feel very let down.

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    • I agree…Yes, as a Waspi woman I have had misgivings about stepping back to see how the Back2 Sixty appeal went…Maladministration is actually what we have been complaining about…

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  38. This is not a benefit rather it is something which we have paid into and is not optional. If it were I certainly wouldn’t choose a Westminster government to administer anything. So it’s ok not to send letters of notification on the grounds that people wouldn’t have read them anyway? Disgraceful and hopefully karma will come back to bite you all.

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  39. If the appeal shouldn’t have been allowed why on earth was it allowed to proceed and all that money wasted. It was a given that this would be the outcome. I still have my letter received towards the end of 2013. I am 64 this month. Two years to go. Rules can be changed or broken but only when it suits the haves

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  40. When men go through a hormonal change of life in their mid to late 50s, that slows them down, weakens their bones, causes awful sweats out of nowhere and generally leaves them feeling like death warmed over…. then and only then should they be making decisions that force women into working longer because they have a longer life expectancy! And a two year one at that……To even the playing field surely only a two year increase in pension age was needed to compensate, particularly as the women’s pension is already less than the men’s.

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  41. Absolutely disgraceful is this decision because the government wouldn’t be able to find the back pay for all the women that have lost out.
    It’s just utter rubbish how they have come to the decision the government have found millions and millions for working people effected by the virus so why can’t they at least give us some sort of compensation.

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  43. Sadly I was hoping for the best but was expecting the worst. 😪 The Government and DWP must be rubbing their hands in delight. Thank you to all the representatives who worked so hard to get a result for the 50’s Women. 👏👏👏👏

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  44. Tell the judges to go to work in pain.and agony everday stand 9hrs on thier feet for a half decent wage we are all killing ourselves but then again we are only a number after all.

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  47. Not 3.8 million people it’s 3.8 million women whom they also think are illiterate as they would not read any correspondence they received, good to know we will continue to be looked upon as scullery maids and wet nurses by our Holier Than Thou Government and antiquated Courts

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  48. Thank you David, but all that is very, very grim reading, what an earth can we do now – a further appeal would take years and 50s women are losing time, time we haven’t got!

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  49. When they comment about notice they contradict themselves. Had we have known earlier we absolutely no doubt about it would have been campaigning sooner. How dare they say if we had been sent a letter we might not read it. Are they insane. I am disgusted with the way our money was used to bail out the bankers, who we are led to believe have paid it back, hang your heads in shame

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  50. So in other words they agree with the fact that women are disadvantaged by the state pension hikes but won’t allow the claim in case other people make further claims !!

    Speechless

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  51. Well ladies …. so we’ve been let down yet again.

    Like most of you I am not totally surprised – having seen the way this cabal government are behaving we were on a hiding to nothing really.

    I remember John McDonnell saying if Labour got into power it would be sorted with the first few months of government. A priority.

    All I can say to you is remember well the taste of ashes in your mouth – remember the anger, the disappointment and the bitterness. What goes round comes round and the next election will be ours to shape !!

    Thank you to all who helped, supported and represented us for all your hard work.

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  52. Age 64 full time work for many many years knackered want to give youngsters a chance, a true case of work till you drop, shame on you Boris and your fat cats shame on you

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  55. This is the outcome I expected, sadly it has come as no surprise, the Government took the easy option, they pay out millions to junkies and the work shy, the house feed and clothe immigrants legal and illegal people in prison also have all their home comforts, meanwhile women who have worked all our days whilst juggling families, looking after our elderly parents, we are treated like worthless individuals, I’m sure if they could they would Euthanize us, we are a thorn in their side but……. WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY 🤬🤬🤬

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  56. Nothing more than I expected ( a stitch up) and closing of the ranks.
    They say that we were given enough notice of the impending change ha.
    What they fail to see or grasp is that not everyone could afford to pay for a private pension scheme. Some people have to choose EAT or HEAT.
    Some of the judges pay in tax what I earn in a YEAR , so I chose EAT and HEAT Because I truly thought that justice would have prevailed and we would have got our pension that myself and
    otherS worked hard for.
    SHAME on you. At least Robin Hood wore a mask.
    I now have no faith in any system
    Yet I am expected to go to work give it my all and continue to pay my dues.

    Yes I’m bitter and disappointed but at least I’m Honest. 💙CL

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  57. I am utterly disgusted in the way we women have been treated ut is a travesty .so one sided the whole thing was cut and dried from the beginning .we should all rise up and fight fight fight. This is one 5os woman that wont back down .

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  58. These overpaid and elitist government lackeys were never going to give the great unwashed mortals anything from this appeal. Their summing up is wishy washy legalese bullspoo.
    These are the scum that rule over us all, but they have no more right on this planet than the rest of us great unwashed.
    Silver spooners.
    Hopefully Gods purge will do our job for us in time,
    My sympathy to the waspi women, you put up a great fight, but it was lost in the nineties.

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    • Actually, this was not directed by the WASPI group, who held back to see how this appeal by Back2 Sixty, panned out…”Maladminstration by the government is the course to follow. There is no disputing that ! Yes, as a Waspi woman I have had misgivings about stepping back to see how the Back2 Sixty appeal went…Maladministration is actually what we have been complaining about..PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROTEST & LEGAL ACTION HAS NEVER, BEEN ABOUT THE DESIRABILITY OF EQUALISING THE PENSION AGE FOR MEN & WOMEN ! , A huge number of women did not receive ANY notice. I only discovered a lot later, through a newspaper article that I could expect to receive my pension at 62 yrs 10 months. That never happened (& again, I was never notified) ,yet again went online to discover that the ‘goalposts’ had been moved again to 65 yrs 6 months ! Inexplicably, the tables produced to show the rate of increase in the SPA for women, dependent on ones birth date, also revealed gross unfairness & if this had been done to men, I am sure it would never have been signed off on.There are thousands of us in the same situation….”

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  60. Sad day again. We were not advised. I worked in Payroll and I never heard about it until I looked at the pension I was going to receive when I retired. Also they continued to deduct NI from us. They are telling lies it’s disgraceful. So upset for all the people that has worked so hard to try and get us justice. Thank you all.

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  62. I’m not suprised we lost the case
    Never expected to win
    Because all government people only think of themselves not the people who have supported them in the past

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    • A Government, not being keen to do the right thing’, is one thing (don’t get me started on despicable Teresa May !)…but this is far worse, it’s the Judiciary !..Who one would suppose would be interested in a just & fair outcome ?…Mind-boggling that they are bringing UK law into disrepute !

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  63. Unlawful and disgusting. I really wish I could air what I really am thinking about the state of this country and the handouts to people who have not contributed to the system.

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  64. It seems judiciary, with their gold plated pensions, have given a slap in the face to working women. After 35 years of hard work, government changed rules of the game in 85th minute & decided these women must work extra 6 years to fund amongst others, free loaders landing on our beaches

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    • These free loaders have in large part been shafted by this Government as well. We wage war on other countries, supply one side with weapons and then bitch when the fallout lands on our shores. The two issues are completely separate and even if they were not the handful of people who are granted asylum does not deplete the pension pot robbed from nearly 4 million women!

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      • Then let the freeloaders fight their own corner. I seems you are fully ok with illegal immigrants, that’s ok it’s your choice. They are illegal if they land on the beach having not completed the relevant forms. Then you say those granted asylum do not deplete the pension pot, it does if they are over state pension age. Lastly you say the two issues are completely separate, yet you link them to suit your argument. Lets help to get the women who have been robbed the pension they deserve and sort out whether or not money claimed by illegals comes from the pension pots or not.

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  65. Hi David, once again thank you for your prompt response on today’s findings.
    I asked myself am l surprised by the outcome, no l am not surprised.
    In my gut l always knew it was going to be
    nothing short of a miracle for the judgement to be in our favour.
    For me it’s time to let go and accept the outcome. I am beyond sad and angry that my Country judicial system and many governments have let hard working class woman down beyond measure. I hope that the people responsible can sleep at night, I couldn’t the guilt would not allow me to if I was one of them, it’s a shambles and they should hang there heads in shame, it truly is a man’s world. It’s a disgraceful decision.

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  66. Re number 3. In 1991 I did not own a computer which means I did not have an email address? Like many other 1950 ladies I imagine?? The DWP make up lie after lie!

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  67. It was so sad for those who are suffering the most when we heard the news, but thanks as always to you – for your support and this careful analysis of the judges’ findings….we may and should fight on but as Joanne said on air both Labour and Tory leaders said at the last elections it is unfair to one cohort of women e.g. that men got a NI supplement to retire at 60 (but it may be not illegal according to this appeal); our great legal team should not be daunted as they did an excellent job.. Thanks to everyone involved.

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  69. Thankyou David for this precis of thexvourt ruling. You have been so supportive and influential on this journey. Many thanks from a very very disappointed 63 year-old.

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  71. Do not agree that females live longer! So may get less SP !
    So we did not get enough notice,and we did not have to!
    How wrong is that??????
    No chances for our generation to climb ladder to earn more. No chance of paying into company pension scheme. What else do you need????

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  72. Do not agree that females live longer! So may get less SP !
    So we did not get enough notice,and we did not have to!
    How wrong is that??????
    No chances for our generation to climb ladder to earn more. No chance of paying into company pension scheme. What else do you need????

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  73. A sad outcome but not totally unexpected. However, if the pension came some way to what the Government describe as a ‘living wage,’ it might be easier to digest. I was never told about the additional years I would need to work until, l was made redundant at aged 62. It was bad enough finding out I would get nothing until aged 65 and then to actually be told it was 66, was pretty galling. I have worked full time for 48 years and see that there is a proposal for pensioners to pay NI in the future as well! I truly feel for those who fought on our behalf. Thank you to them for stoically continuing to fight for justice.

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  75. I understand that 10% of all Income Tax receipts were to be paid into the DWP for State Pensions under 1947 Act. Additionally, I have been informed that the PM (MT) surreptitiously allowed this money to be used for other purposes. I consider that this was obtaining monetary advantage by deception.This is Contrary to The Theft Act and imprisionable. 50,’s women have had their pensions STOLEN BY FILTHY CROOKS!

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  77. Very disappointed once again with todays judgment I have lost faith in the Judiciary if we take it to the supreme Court we still may not get it overturned. I think we need to protest make our voices heard like the students did recently over their exam results. we are non existent to the Judiciary and the government. we have been well and truly shafted like we have always been. equality what a joke they don’t even know what it is. should be kept the same age for both sexes should never have been turned into a birthday lottery. it is scandalous and the whole system needs overhauling to make it fair for everybody especially for people who have paid in all their working life…. a big thank you to the legal team for all their hard work and trying their best to help us and to you David for all your support. and back to 60 too.

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    • Those who protested about their exam results will just be starting out in the workforce and should look to us as their future i.e they are just at the start of paying in NI but by the time they are due to collect, pensions will have been abolished and they too will have paid in for nothing (robbed) and have to work until they drop.

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  79. I always thought we lived in a fair society. The government has dont see anything wrong in he fact the we 1950s were not told anout these changes in the correct way and to explain that men get paid more because women are a drain on finances because we usually live longer is an insult. Shame on you

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    • A Government, not being keen to do the right thing’, is one thing (don’t get me started on despicable Teresa May !)…but this is far worse, it’s the Judiciary !..Who, one would suppose, would be interested in a just & fair outcome ?…Mind-boggling that they are bringing UK law into disrepute !

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  80. Comment from John Walton is bang on- that is the angle this fight should have come from.
    The money for pensions was pilfered and we are the collateral damage that can just be swept aside.
    The speed of the rise in age was mind-boggling, especially the second rise to 66. As mentioned before there should be a 10 year notice of a one year rise so I wouldn’t even have started school and I should have been notified. It is crazy and so very sad. I feel like I have been sucked of all energy now. I will be 66 in January 2021 and I am staggering on as best I can with no new clothes, basic food and no joy.

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    • ‘Bon Courage !’….Don’t give up, look after yourself as best you can & know that you ARE, in the right !…I fervently believe this wont ‘go away’ & they will not ‘get away with it !’..

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  83. I have worked from the age of 15yrs old ,i have payed contributions all my working life and was told i would get my pension at 60 years old, without any notice i have no choice but to continue working another 6years ,most unfair , everyone else got their pension at 60 ,how can that be fair to us women , i have raised a family and been a houswife and mother with 3children and worked all my life , because i live alone i have to support myself and struggle with illness and keep working if i want to keep my home , to take away my pension at 60 has just about killed me , its diabolical and outrageous that my pension has been stolen from me ,the only word that comes to mind are thieves ,

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    • If you have health problems, taking in a lodger or two, might be better than torturing your body to do what it really cannot sustain….You have my sincere sympathies , the fight continues….

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  84. I completely disagree with this judgement. The look on his face says it all, Thanks for the nice backhander boris.i have worked since I was 14 year’s old and paid into the system for over 50 years. The money was directly stolen by successive governments to feed their own pockets. How does all that money just disappear??? This government is the most corrupt government the UK has ever had. How can you look yourselves in the mirror every day. Karma will catch you when you least expect it. We are going to carry on fighting ,you Will Never get the better if us , we 50s woman are resilient, strong and are true fighters. We will not rest until we get justice.

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    • Angie,…A Government, not being keen to do the right thing’, is one thing, (don’t get me started on despicable Teresa May !)…but this is far worse, it’s the Judiciary !..Who, one would suppose, would be interested in a ‘just & fair’ outcome ?…Mind-boggling that they are bringing UK law into disrepute !

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  85. I feel sick to the stomach and have been unable to comment earlier as so upset, I just don’t get it. I know we will vow to fight on but not sure how much fight is left in us, I just wish Labour had won the election and we will have all got something, Boris and his lot will give us nothing, apart from false promises that is, I hate the lot of them. Thank You Michael David Back to 60 and everyone for trying, sadly there is no Justice.

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    • Previous governments all had opportunities to do the right thing, but they didn’t….A Government, not being keen to do the right thing’, is one thing (don’t get me started on despicable Teresa May !)…but this is far worse, it’s the Judiciary !..Who one would suppose would be interested in a just & fair outcome ?…Mind-boggling that they are bringing UK law into disrepute !

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      • I do agree 100% but the only offer of any kind was made by Labour and right now that would be a lifeline to many, me included. I was born in July 1954 so waited 8 weeks before my 66th Birthday for my Pension, I sadly lost my husband 8 weeks after his 60th Birthday six years ago. He never got a penny of his Pension after working all his life from 15. I applied for a portion of his Pension following advice and do get £20 a week extra, but the problem there is it knocks me out of the Pension Credit bracket, so I am no better off, the system stinks.

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  86. “they cast doubt on even sending a direct mail to everyone on the grounds that people might not read it anyway.” Chance would have been a fine thing! How patronising! They’re all in it together, government, dwp & the judiciary. If we should not have been granted a judicial review in the first place, how come they allowed us to appeal the initial Jr outcome on all grounds??!! Such a disappointing outcome today for so many. Huge respect & gratitude to all of the back to 60s team & their legal team for such great work, & you also David for such fantastic journalism & keeping us all informed.

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    • Yep ! I Agree…..If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  88. Also, how insulting to say that we may not even have read a letter if one had been sent to inform us of the changes. The ridiculous campaign of weird games was enough, was it? Or two dogs having a conversation. I didn’t see any of these at the time and something so important should not have been left to chance.
    I am so deflated. The basic issues don’t appear to have been properly addressed and I have no money to crowd fund again. I want my NI contributions back so I will be treated the same as men.

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    • If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  89. Thank you David for the details, I am extremely angry that this was allowed to go ahead given they have rejected it on the same basis as the JD, it appears to have been a delaying tactic on behalf of this Government, I certainly cannot see any other reason why they allowed us to raise all this money to kick it straight back into the long grass, its bizarre to be honest. I worked in a factory at 15, doing the same job as a man, full time hours etc etc exactly the same, the difference was I was not allowed to join pension scheme and his wages were 3 times more than mine. The equality act came in in the 70’s as I recall but even in the 90’s when I was a manager in one branch I did not get a car, but the male manager in the other branch had a car and a mobile phone and was paid more than me and I was his direct line manager, so 20 years after the equality act I was still a second class citizen, as many women at the BBC found fairly recently. How anyone can say any of this is fair is beyond me. My letter for the rise to 65 is still awaited, my letter for the rise to 66 was received in Nov 2013 I was due to retire in Feb 2016. On noting they now say for each year rise they have to give 10 years notice makes it fairly obvious if that had been the case for me my notifications should have started the day I was born not 58 years later. Also during all these years of paying in exactly the same as my Dad both myself and my husband find ourselves £20 a week worse off each (when I finally get my pension) because of the changes made to the way the pension is calculated, I paid the higher rate NI from 1978 so have all the credits needed, and would not have known of these losses had I not been Power of Attorney for my Dad. Hubby has always paid the higher rate (being a man) and serps / graduated / 2nd pension. So why I wonder have we both ended up worse off?

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    • Your post reminded me that my mother, who was severely disabled with Rheumatoid Arthritis, ( whilst she was still able to), worked for the Civil Service…& she too was not encouraged (by a man, incidentally,) when she joined the permanent staff, to join the pension scheme, just dismissed her rights as though it was not important at all. Shocking then & now….

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  90. Am i surprised ? – NO
    Disappointed ? – YES
    Do I think it’s fair and just ? – NO
    Am I giving up ? – NO
    We are strong minded 50s born women, giving in is not in our nature, it’s not how we were bought up !!

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  91. I have worked for 41 years – since I left uni. Fortunately, I have a pension but that does not make me any less angry and upset for all 1950’s women. We have lived through much as women and in many cases have seen improvements ie equal pay. However, by successive governments we have all been cheated of our state pension.
    We must continue this fight with the same passion and dignity which has already been shown.

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  92. I funded the review why didn’t we get to know it was too late I don’t remember this being the case when asked to help find it , and knowing that the 50’s women were struggling why couldn’t the lawyers help by giving their services cheaper we collected over 70,000 .

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    • It’s not too late, Fiona, it was just the view of those judges that it was. The first judge believed it was worth an appeal.

      I helped fund it too, and I will do again if it goes on to Supreme Court. I am very far from rich, but it gave me confidence and strength knowing that we were fighting for it, even if we don’t win in the end. It is better by far to be angry and to have my voice heard, and to share like this with others in a similar position.

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  94. An absolute disgrace! So basically we 50s women are the cannon fodder to stop any other disadvantaged group from considering they may have any rights whatsoever to be treated fairly. We were NOT informed of any of this as we wouldn’t have bothered reading anything anyway! Really!? Some random ads apparently – news to most. I have read through this 3 times and it just sounds to be discriminatory towards women yet again. I shall never trust anything I hear from this shower again. They have closed ranks and we are nothing. By July next year I shall have worked and paid my full dues for 50 years. We know what they are doing and can see straight through them! They should all be ashamed of themselves – but of course they’ll no doubt be celebrating tonight! Disgusted!

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    • Val, I agree…WORTH NOTING (?)…If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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      • We have women in the groups that work/worked at the DWP and even they didn’t know about the SPA changes !!! They also never received any letter !!

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  96. Etherton retires in February 2021 having surpassed himself supportingo the historical discrimination of these women and their families.
    He can rest assured he will be remembered for all the wrong reasons. Justice is dead.

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    • In my opinion it has been dead for many years !!! Not only in this field but in all fields of justice, quite simply there is none !!!!

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  97. Disappointed and disgusted at this I’ve worked full time paid my NI and taxes for all those yrs give birth to 2 children had 12 weeks off during that time was made redundant last month can only claim job seekers allowance for 6 months so know at 60yrs old I’m looking for work for shame on this government

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  98. Why is it that men just had to wait 18 months to get their pension and us women have had to wait 6 plus years? There should have a least been slow increments this surely applya to our personal rights . We were not notified to plan

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  99. Why were men given Auto credits in 1983 till 2018 but women were refused this. That is total discrimination. Why were women not helped in divorce when bringing up children?

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    • If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  100. Thats great news for the 60 year old women who in retail who stand on their feet for 8 hours a day and in my case could be asked to work from 6 am till midnight at Christmas those fortunate people who can sit on their arse all day with a computer in front of them are far more able to carry on past 60 but that’s not the point give the young people our jobs
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  101. Point 1 why have we paid ni
    Point 2 why did my company pay ni contributions
    Point 3 why did I have no notification
    Point 4 why did men get their ni insurance contributions paid
    Point 5 why am I still paying ni
    Point 6 why is my company paying ni contributions
    Point 7 why not admit they robbed the women of their state pension
    Point 8 I could of paid into a private pension which would of had to pay out at age agreed

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    • Add this to your list….If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  102. Were there any women on the panel of judges?
    I am sick of our pension being referred to as a benefit. We paid our money in good faith thinking we would get our return in good time. Equality between men and women is agreeable. The theft of what rightfully belongs to anyone is criminal.
    Also to make the assumption that people “might not read it, anyway” is careless.
    Totally conived decision.
    I am appalled at this.

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    • Yes there were….& at the original hearing…(beggars belief),…..I had high hopes the Theresa May would right this wrong, but she lacked the guts & integrity to ‘do the right thing…’…Sinister forces at work..think on this…If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  103. Its a disgrace these judges have no concept of the struggles the 1950s woman face on a day to day basis. Robbing us of our pensions expecting us to continue working in manual jobs that is not always suitable. The Government states we live longer than men, not always true and just because we live longer it does not mean we are physically fit. The Government expects us to work till we drop they know that people are not going to be able to carry on working into their later years. However it is cheaper for them to pay sickness benefits rather than a pension
    We are the guinea pigs in this experiment and if they had their way next it will be the workhouses.

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  105. If at some point we could get this to Europe I believe that there would be less chance of the Court worrying about how much their decision would cost The Government.

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    • I am worried that the imminent approach of the deadline for the UK Brexit, may well affect the UK’s ability to take the case to the European court…We need to prepare for this now so it can be done asap….

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      • Fortunately, the European Court of Human Rights is a separate entity to the EU. Thus membership is not conditional to being part of the EU. eg Russia plus many others totalling about 50.

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  107. As well as being deprived of my pension for another 5yrs, I lost my husband, and I’m not entitled to his pension either. Heart breaking poverty for lots of us, through no fault of our making. We worked for our due, not a benefit

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  108. We have been cheated and tricked over NI. Of course they will say the government did not act unlawfully, the government made up the rules and changed them! We were on a hiding to nothing as soon as the judges were announced too. This government is intent on keeping the NI as their purse to prop up their pensions and increase the House of Lords and the people are just the pit ponies to work to death. This was not why NI, NHS and Pensions were put in place. They have abused it.

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  110. Dear David Hencke,
    The court forensically lied about life expectancy.
    Actuaries know and have said again and again in finance pages, that life expectancy has decreased.
    The top UK actuary Andrew Cairn informed about higher mortality rates for women, aged in their 50s and 60s, since 2011. He did specific research just on that women’s age group.
    Meaning the assumption of continuing life from 50 to 70 ended in 2011.
    Now Covid19 will hide the equal threat to life of pension age 67 to the 1960s born ladies, now turning 60 from 2020.
    As Grey Swans I have succeeded in getting published support for pension age 60 men and women from the upcoming new socialist party of Chris Williamson (the man, former Labour MP purged out of the party for being Corbynite).
    As Tory Boris intends to end the fixed term parliament act, we could get an election at any time, not just one called by government.
    The Tories might want to run away from the economic effects of Covid19 pandemic, with a global recession worst in 300 years, and in UK with the worst unemployment crisis since the 1980s, with economists saying we could lose up to a quarter of all jobs.
    Do remember that Labour failed to notify the 1950s ladies between 1997 and 2010 (so for longest number of years) when Blair and Brown were in government, failed to repeal the 1995 pension act, added misery to the next victims (1960s to 1980s born) with 2007 pension act.
    Even Jeremy Corbyn betrayed us 1950s women, by never putting the pension policy he had supported throughout his MP career since 1983, of pension age 60 men and women, in his election manifestos between 2015 and 2019. Alongside his policy chief of Andrew Fisher.
    Is it time to request 1950s and 1960s women vote for pension age 60 men and women (back dated for the 1950s women) by voting for Chris Williamson’s party and for them to demand this parliament ends, and an election called once the Covid19 vaccine is in us all.
    And not the Tory idiocy of putting out an unlicensed Covid19 vaccine given by medically unqualified people.
    Russia has a vaccine, which might be safer, as they already had a MERS vaccine, that is another corona virus.

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  112. It is disgrace that the court accepted payment for a court case they knew right from the start would not succeed..Why accept a case on all counts just to dismiss it on all counts,this money was crowd funded.You cant have any faith in the law courts or the government they are one and the same.

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  114. When they are campaigning to get in government they promise everything and once there in they don’t give a shit totally heartless 😬😬😬

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  115. No more than I expected,but can someone answer me this question,as I use charity shops more than ever now, because of no pension. Why are there becoming more and more charity shops,I heard they don’t have to pay rates on them. Wouldn’t it be better to reduce the rates so businesses could servive,and councils would get some money,than nothing at all. I don’t understand,am I missing something

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  117. To say that this would open the door to other groups is ridiculous, we can not tell the future only try and protect ours. My vote will definitely be put in a different box next time, lost faith in our justice system

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  118. The people who made these ridiculous decisions should have done their homework they obviously haven’t listened to the women concerned and the truths they told but listened to a lying group of criminals aka this government!

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  119. The judicial system in this case has acted to protect the government and them only. Shows what this country has become when such bodies become the puppets of government instead of doing the right thing. Shameful.

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  120. We have been used as an experiment,in stealth tactics. No proper notification,no publicity campaign.
    Successive governments have been involved in this debacle.
    This decision is an absolute disgrace.
    It addresses only the government position.

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  121. The government STOLE our money!! They should be made to repay it. It is a crime and they should be punished! If we were due them the money, they would take it quick enough.
    Absolutely disgusted!!

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  123. I’ve worked all my life and recently become unemployed due to ageism and bullying in the workplace. I am 63 and now have to live of my savings. Meanwhile taxpayers money is being poured into keeping those that have no intention of working, illegals pouring onto our shores and paying mp’s massive salaries. This country is completely the pits now and I dont see it ever improving for hard working people.

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  124. This is a serious suggestion. BT60 establish contact with a group known as “Fiesty Women” in Dundee . If I understand it correctly they plan a civil case to challenge the 2011 pensions Act and have taken legal advice prior to this decision.
    From Their web site-
    “Historically, women have always had to be pioneers and innovators to survive in a world largely designed by and for men. We intend to apply our talents as innovators and pioneers to find a new theory of discrimination. If we define the problem correctly, then we will find improved solutions that work. More of the same won’t do.
    This year, Feisty Women has three priorities.
    1 To challenge the lawfulness of a second, unexpected increase in state pension age for fifties-born women in 2011
    2 To influence policy by helping an under-confident group of women find their voice and share their life experiences, grass-roots upwards
    4 To collect data that will explain the underlying causes of the unfair treatment of older women
    Please see their web site for further details. We should all work together on the women’s pensions/women’s inequality issue. This is for all women now and into the future.

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  125. Very disappointed by decision, though it has clearly been an Establishment stitch-up from start to finish. That said, I did not share the optimism of many of those involved about the outcome of the original action or the appeal. I feel that WASPI and Back to 60 should have acted jointly and the ‘Back to 60’ slogan dropped, with the action based purely on process rather than outcome, leaving any arguments about a reduction in the pension age for another day. Be that as it may, we women have long memories and our political masters should know that this injustice will continue to rankle until it is righted, albeit that it may be too late for the many who have suffered genuine hardship.

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  126. Sorry to be a drain on public finances, yet taxpayers money can pay the likes of Gary Lineker £1.75m and Zoe Ball £1.36m a year. Its immoral and obscene. We put illegal immigrants upon luxury hotels and give them money each week, they have contributed nothing to this country yet this group of women who have paid for their pension already lose out on 6 years payments. In fact who decided on the criteria for the change, the Prime Minister and Chancellor won’t tell mr I’ve asked!

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  127. So very wrong these judges need 2 work a day in my life with my income retirement was something i looked forward 2 now i dont think ill live long enough but that will suit dwp

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  129. Oh well, nothing too surprising with yesterdays result. Maybe continuing to bash away at this on the grounds of Discrimination needs rethinking. Failing twice using this says to me that new tactics are required. Our Pensions were STOLEN from us and trying to take on the Government, when they make and then manipulate the Laws to bail THEIRSELVES out of THEIR bloody mess using our money to do it is a disgrace. Not only the Tories but Labour too and together in the Coalition. They are all complicit in this theft. None of them are to be trusted and you can tell this when asked to stand up and be counted on our behalf and just about all of them head for the hills. Most are self serving tossers who are too busy looking after their own positions and their too large salaries or even worse to agree with being ‘gagged’, same goes for most of the Media.
    If every one of we 3.8 million women gave £10 to bring a Class Action against the Government for theft or fraud we would have a fighting fund of £38 million. Probably better odds than spending £10 on the Lottery. I appreciate that it would take years but I would consider £10 good value for money just to give some these bastards a few sleepless nights. I cannot believe this will get anywhere unless it’s in open court. Bit difficult for the Media to ignore it then, not just in the UK bit Internationally. Back to 60 and all the other people that have worked so hard to help us they deserrve our thanks. All the scandalous information they have uncovered needs to be aired in a public arena, not shoved away in a closed courtroom with a Video Link when hardly anyone knew the case was being heard. It’s only the result that makes the News. I think that we possibly need to change the way this is approached. CEDAW is brilliant in theory but every Government for 40 years have failed to adopt this into UK Law so don’t hold your breath with that this time around. It still has to go before a panel of Judges and given what happened yesterday I lack faith with these ‘Independent’ Judges (is there such a thing?). Good Luck to you All. x

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    • I still think that the WASPI plan of sueing for ‘Maladminstration’, is the way to go. Very easy to demonstrate the anomalies in the SPA grid & the sheer numbers of women who ino personal communication regarding any of the successive changes !

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  130. Very sad. I and many others were particularly ‘duped’ by the 2011 act. Disgusting treatment of women born in the 1950s. Unfortunately Ian Duncan Smith et al will be smirking into their breakfast cereals today. I find that almost as revolting as losing the judgement.

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  131. Disgraceful!!!!! I left work to look after my mother 4 years ago she has since passed away and now I have to live on my husbands pension as I dont qualify for any benefits I started work when I turned 15, I married had 3 children and worked mostly part time when they all went to school never have we asked for any benefits our whole life all I wanted was to have a good and happy retirement with my husband I cannot find any work and my husband who is 69 has had to take a part time driving job so we can have a better quality of life the government should be ashamed of themselves they have stolen my pension 😠

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  133. I wonder if they would have the same view if they were working class women.
    I have worked since I was 16 And went back when my child was 8 months old.
    All these people making these decisions without discussion or informative process are a disgrace and probably all from privileged back grounds.

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  134. Thank you David. Succinct and to the point. I cannot believe the injustice agains women. I am not a stupid woman. Never out of work and for most part a higher rate tax payer. I never received official notification and the advertising I cannot recall. If I have been left 28k short and suffering hardship after being made redundant at 61 but expected to find work what about those women in lesser paid jobs who were not part of an occupation pension scheme. My blood boils.

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  137. Why is David’s post the only one I’ve found. Where is the post/video from Joanne, Id love to hear her thoughts on this disgrace. I read online that Back to 60 were intending to take our case to the Supreme Court. Not sure convincing 11 Judges on the grounds of Discrimination will be any more successful than failing to convince three! Change of tack next time? How many more lives will be lost before that happens?
    Joanne, Davina, Hannah and Jackie and the team must be as gutted as I am. The Judges even had a ‘pop’ at the Judge who allowed the Appeal to go ahead. No loyalty or discretion in their ranks eh?. What are they like!! I agree with a previous post, if the Appeal was ‘out of time’ why go ahead, surely the three Judges thought it was a waste of time before the Appeal got underway but had to ‘go through the motions’.

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  138. How convenient for this Government. This incompetent shower of ****** fill in the stars, brought in a law to make illegal gatherings of more than 6 people, just before this decision was announced. Anyone would think that rather than protecting us from covid they were denying us our legal right to stand up and be heard in protest at this disgusting decision!

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    • I appreciate the use of alliteration, from time time, too !…
      A Government, not being keen to do the right thing’, is one thing (don’t get me started on despicable Teresa May !)…but this is far worse, it’s the Judiciary !..Who, one would suppose, would be interested in a ‘just & fair’ outcome ?…Mind-boggling that they are bringing UK law into disrepute !
      WORTH NOTING, PERHAPS….
      If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  139. They keep saying we are living longer, but not our generation. I know lots of people who have lost friends and relatives who have died in their early sixties or younger. They need to seriously work out how many of our generation are actually dieing young. Maybe that is the plan. We die before we get our pension.

    What about the younger generation. How can they get a job. If we oldies are still working.
    Personally I wish I had never worked all those years. Working doesnt give you an.enjoyable retirement, because you will either not make it to your pension or you will be too poorly to enjoy your retirement.

    I will no longer be voting at any election… all I can say is this Government does not care about anyone. Neither will any new Government. I feel worried for the next generations.

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  140. Under Freedom of Information Act, are we allowed to ask for an accounting of the money we paid in and where it has gone? National Insurance contributions were a big chunk of money for all of us and we rightly expected it back as promised…. not stolen and used elsewhere. Surely we can at least know for sure where it has gone?

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  141. Disgusted with this decision .
    Thank you to the team who went to fight for us i hope they realise we will not give up they might find a lot of suffragettes out side parliament i got no warning and to say we would have read it if they had sent it is to say women can’t read shame on them.

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  142. Thank you David yet again for your honest answer. I always thought although very disappointed with the Judges decision that putting the pension age back to 60 was never going to happen. I’d like to ask you your opinion on what if it was a WASPI ask, for WASPI it has never been about taking the age back to 60 they have always been happy to accept that it would be the same as the mens 65. All WASPI women wanted was for the government to accept that the 50s women were rightfully not given the notice as for the change in the pension age starting from the women of 1950/51 through to the women of 1959/60 who have lost thousands by not being given the time to prepare for retirement. Do you think this may have had à better chance of succeeding and 50s women getting what is rightfully theirs. Its obvious to many MPs that this certainly should of been the case.

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    • Marian
      I think you misunderstand what BackTo60 were asking in the case. Despite the name they never wanted to return the pension age to 60 for all women. Instead they felt that the particular cohort had suffered disproportionately by the change. They were going to argue for a specific legal measure – known as a special temporary measure – which allowed the payment of compensation to this particular group while leaving the existing pension age as now at 66 – therefore not undermining primary legislation.

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  144. Gutted…I have to wait 6 years but thankfully that will be in December this year. I would just like to clarify did men stop paying NI at age 60 and do members of parliament still get their pensions at 60. I think we all knew we wouldn’t get the result we all deserve.

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  145. Corruption and hypocrisy of past and present governments to continue to deny this gross injustice to 1950s women. It seems that injustice towards a small cohort of ladies in their 60s is defensible in this country!! Truly sickened as we worked and paid for the pension denied…i will continue this fight

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  146. Dear Boris, please please please may I have my Pension, I’m trying but it does go against the grain, I’m not used to begging , didn’t think I should have to, dam I need my pension now! I know it’s time all three million of us signed on, at least until it our pension comes through eh!

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  147. I FEEL I and my fellow women born in the 1950s have been stabbed in the back and the dagger twisted. I myself have had breast cancer Twice. NEVER had a penny from this dam country sick leave. My wonderful bosses paid me when Having my operations. I work as Dr Receptionist. The Radio advertisers saying know your pension. I have checked, I know my pension I have paid ALL my contributions. To qualify for my state Pension. THAT IS NOT A BENEFIT. I have paid for it. I could rant on but it’s getting me no where. I have never had the opportunity to earn what the Director of Roles Royce has earned. No wonder he can look so smug and not worn out?????

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  148. Disappointed and disgusted, I have worked from the age of 13 all be it part time, and then full time from the age of 16 and I’m still working at the age of 62. I have never had any faith that our judicial system would do right by us.

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  150. When I retire from full time work in 3 half years I will have work 50 years for what I will be to old to fully enjoy retirement yet the pms retire early with a fat pay check I’m disgusted but thank everyone for thier hard work to get us recognition but also brought up two kids and women work on thier days off x

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  151. What a disgusting result for 1950s born woman. If we weren’t notified about the change in age how were we supposed to know about it and if we didn’t know about it how were we supposed to make arrangements to compensate for the money we were losing. £50000 in my case. But I knew we wouldn’t win. They were always going to side with this Tory government. It’s criminal.

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  152. I am still working – nearly 66. I have worked since I was 16 and only had three months maternity leave, then brought my daughter up on my own. I was lucky and received Local Government Pension Scheme at 60 (not sure how when we couldn’t get our state pension at 60 also) Knew we wouldn’t win but hoped against hope that we might.

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  153. Blair brought it in.Osborne did away with the gradation solution to save money.The Tories have just lost 3million votes.Goodbye Boris and his pitifull bunch. He’d rather put up immigrants in 4 star hotels and give them money than undo Osnorne’s disgracefull actions. So much for his gobshite before the election.

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  154. How insulting that the DWP didn’t think we women would read any notification sent to us. I received no notification of the two changes to my state pension age entitlement. The first one where I would receive my state pension at 62 was from the guardian newspaper and the 2nd one where I was told it wouldn’t be 62 but 66 and 5months from a friend who suggested I check on line!
    An absolute disgrace that i wasn’t given any time to make financial provision to cover me for another 6 years. I retired last year at 66 and 5 months after working as a registered nurse for 34 years. I have never claimed any kind of benefit or been unemployed since leaving school. It’s an absolute disgrace that the DWP have treated us this way. Shameful. The government appears to have the ability to source money when it will benefit their cause. I am disappointed and disillusioned with the whole process

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    • Think on this…..If one was employed by a local authority, one would have received a regular monthly payslip..Why was there not a notice of the changes, printed on the payslip ? Perfectly feasible, but they didn’t do it, Why not ? Hoping to catch us all unawares, so that the fight against these changes was delayed ? VERY ‘FISHY’…..I suspect that somewhere there is a DWP email/directive, in relation to this. Be useful, if someone at the DWP, (with a conscience ?), would ‘do a Julian Assange’ ?

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  155. How many women knew that BT60 were not asking for “full restitution”? They were asking for an apology yet right up to the appeal date they were encouraging women to believe they could get their pensions paid back to 60.
    View at Medium.com

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    • Yes, I agree…SEE MY COMMENT TO AN ARTICLE IN THE DAILY MAIL, 16th Sept 2020 (a depressing number of people,think that or protest has been about equalising the pension ages…)
      “Yes, as a Waspi woman I have had misgivings about stepping back to see how the Back2 Sixty appeal went…Maladministration is actually what we have been complaining about..PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROTEST & LEGAL ACTION HAS NEVER, BEEN ABOUT THE DESIRABILITY OF EQUALISING THE PENSION AGE FOR MEN & WOMEN ! , A huge number of women did not receive ANY notice. I only discovered a lot later, through a newspaper article that I could expect to receive my pension at 62 yrs 10 months. That never happened (& again, I was never notified) ,yet again went online to discover that the ‘goalposts’ had been moved again to 65 yrs 6 months ! Inexplicably, the tables produced to show the rate of increase in the SPA for women, dependent on ones birth date, also revealed gross unfairness & if this had been done to men, I am sure it would never have been signed off on… There are thousands of us in the same situation….

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  156. I am unsure why the acceleration under 2011 act was not challenged. There was a nine month period where the rate at which the retirement age accelerated doubled. so instead of acceleration being 2 months for every month, it was 4 months for every month. Surely the women directly affected by this differential should have some kind of redress showing that acceleration was applied unfairly. I was born in May 1955 so I am in the group that was directly affected. If the acceleration rate had been applied consistently I would now be getting my state pension. Why has this not been challenged?

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    • Diane Don’t know whether that would have worked either. One of the most disturbing parts of the judgement on that matter is that it says the DWP did consider in 2011 as an option putting the pension age up to 75 in the same period. The DWP would have said they were being modest only going for 66. That is why Iain Duncan Smith still wants it at 75 now.

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    • Me too. Born Feb 1954, badly affected like you. If I had been born a year earlier, I would have received my pension much earlier. This erratic scaling up of the pension ages has always puzzled me, so obviously unfair. Who on earth signed of on this ? ..somebody who hadn’t got the gumption to work it out equably ?

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  157. Hi David. Thankyou for helping us make sense of the judgement. I think we need a different approach. Unfortunately, the sad fact is that governments all over the world aren’t interested in human rights, they are only interested in one thing and that is money. So, it appears that on the grounds of discrimination that our case is based on, is never going to get us our money back. I think we need a legal team who will fight for our money on the grounds that it has been stolen. Forget human rights, forget discrimination, this government couldn’t see discrimination if it was standing in front of them, which it clearly was. We should base our claim on the grounds of theft on a grand scale. We all reax about or see on tv , stories about these multi million dollar companies /individuals who make millions in this country but somehow they don’t have to pay tax. That’s because they have the best tax accountants/lawyers etc in the world, who know everything there is to know about money, and its those we need to find a way to claim our money back. Trying to win a court case which will force the government to admit they have discriminated against 50s women, isnt the way forward because the government won’t fight the government, and the judgement was pretty much to the effect that the law doesn’t have the power to tell the government what to do and therefore, the government is the law. (hope that makes sense). So lets fight fire with fire. Forget discrimination and human rights, they don’t care about any of that, let’s get the tax experts in, get them in to claim each and everyone of us our money back. I think that’s our only chance. Meanwhile thankyou to the back to 60 ladies who brought this case and who have fought for all of 50s ladies, because they must be physically and emotionally exhausted yet they remain steadfast in their campaign. Bless you all.

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  158. Thank you so much for explaining the judgement David.
    I was watching the tv program ‘Des’ in which justice was being sought by the police at ground level. Those in authority blocked justice for all because of exceeding budgets and the amount of money it would take.
    This resonated with me as it has been a cross party political consensus that that a grave injustice has been applied to 1950’s women through decades of discrimination and lack of communication regarding pension rights. Once again those in authority have blocked justice because like the tv program ‘it is all about the money’

    Thank you David for your brilliant journalism
    to uncover deceit and highlight truth.

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  159. I agree completely Paula. The case was wrongly presented from the beginning. When I watched the apeal I knew we didn’t have a chance. Feel let down that experts supposedly representing us in the end didnt.

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  160. I think it is disgusting I have worked most of my life and am now a carer for my son and get carers allowance but because my husband is retired and has to get pension credit for me my cares allowance is taken out of his pension so in theory I am getting nothing to live on how does that work I would like to see some of the people who make these decisions cope on what we have to live on

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  161. Well I think lots of us know the law is set against us you only have to look back in history to see it’s always been that way but when you have the populist estranged from the law you only have anarchy which leads to lawlessness and hatred of the establishment when they decide on the fates of others by law we should be informed consulted and it put to the vote but because they make the law none of this occurred

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  162. This could have been an opportunity to address some massive systemic inequalities in our society. To have those inequalities acknowledged and then dismissed openly due to fears of others coming forward to make justifiable claims is a further kick in the teeth. There is still work to be done. I don’t believe the judgement rationale works- it just tells us ‘life is not fair, suck it up.

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  163. Totally wrong and unjust that the state pension went from 60to66 for 50s women I don’t know how anyone can find this justified maybe 60 to 63 but not 66 totally unfair

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  164. I’m unbelievably upset and quite frankly appalled by this decision. Like so many others I received no notice of the changes nor was I aware of any campaigns!! I am now 61 year old widow with no private pension and have had to cut my hours at work to 15 per week so that I can care for my aging parents. I have three brothers but because I am the only daughter it has been assumed that this is my role. Although I would have it no other way it is still sexist and discriminatory. Both Boris Johnson and Keir Starmer pledged to look at our plight- I’d like to bet they won’t!!!

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  165. I feel that the phrase “women’s longer life expectancy places a strain on public finances” is insulting. It implies that women are ‘other’ as described in Caroline Criado Perez’s book Invisible Women. The assumption is that men’s life expectancy is ‘the norm’. The automatic payment of men’s NI contributions beyond 60 was not a ‘strain‘ apparently.

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  166. I am still getting my head around the appeal losing on all counts AGAIN. if the Judiciary say they cant Judge on parliamentary dicisions and its about points of law why did we get permission to appeal in the first place plus if we take it to the supreme court which i will contribute too will they throw the same excuses VERDICTS back at us about parliamentary laws decisions etc by the time it gets through the supreme court i will be drawing my pension or close to it got another 15 mths to go without a pension or bus pass which is another discrimination when certain parts of the UK can have them at 60 and others have to wait till 66 unjust and totally unfair. disapointed isn’t the Word for how let down I am feeling right now. but I will pick my self up and carry on with determination to be still around to claim my pension from this robbing steeling government that doesn’t give a 💩 about older people and make it obvious it doesn’t want to pay us our hard earned dues.

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  167. I’m not surprised! They call it “Act of Parliament” and nothing the courts can do about! With more than 60% MP’s being men and making the laws, what did we expect? Its ironic how, women’s right to vote was not given the same swift application and it took years to make it law so that every woman could vote!

    They call it equality! Today, there is 40.3% gender pension gap; although more women are going to university than men, gender pay gap is still 17.3%; women over the age of 40, more likely to work in lower paid jobs; within each age group, men earn more than women.

    Although life expectancy for women is longer, their earnings are a lot less during their working life which was even more of an issue, if you were born in the 50s or before! Just when your experience and earning power increases, it is the women who have to take time off to give birth and make sure the future generation is looked after. Just look at what’s happening now, Covid19 cost more issues for women with jobs and childcare than men. It is therefore this Government’s duty to the women, not only of 50s but the rest too who give up so much more to contribute to the society, to ensure they are rewarded when their time comes and stop delaying awarding them until its too late!

    If my research is correct, men were given 6 years notice to increase their pension age by one year and women were given 1 year to increase their pension age by 6 years! I myself was never given any such notice. With all media at their disposal, why did the Government fail to reach us properly and guide us to our retirement in good time? Please let’s all get together and fight this.

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  168. This is disgraceful to for all the women who have worked hard all their life usually doing far more work than men in the house and with children. I hope the government will come to a more humane settlement.

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  169. It’s a very sad time for us, I should have retired at 60 my daughter was very ill at that time I could have devoted all my time to her and her babies I should have retired in the May she passed in the August I always regret not leaving to spend every hour of every day with her but I just couldn’t afford to leave those precious moments I’ll never be able to have if only I could have gone in May,
    I know have fibromyalgia I was told trauma brought it on and I struggle so much work just gets me down its so hard but I have to work until I can retire its just shocking I’m in tears most days but I have to carry on for my dear daughters children,

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  170. The Reality is it’s Not Just our money that’s been Stolen its also our “Time Our Precious time “with the people we Love , & That Hurts more than the fact that I’m 64 & have another 2 Years Cleaning Toilets “ after a major operation kept me in bed for nearly a year “ & I literally have to drag my self around on the floor to clean I suppose the toffs (Don’t know how they sleep at night ?) ..that played god with our lives …”Don’t want to lose their 50’s women cleaners as we all know including those who RULE over us that over 60 is a Vulnerable age group “ but they’re not the ones facing human FAECES “ every day I just hope there is a God & that those ruling over us get the “what comes around goes around treatment “then they’ll get a chance to see for themselves what they have done to us ,,, Thank you for all who care it means so much xx

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    • We now know, there is no democracy in the Uk. We are not allowed free speech. We are not allowed to Petition.
      The House of Commons is full to bursting when it comes to giving themselves rises every few months, plus Pension increases. The laugh and cheer. How much money do these people really need. Judgement day will come to them! Let us Ladies hold our heads high, we have worked our fingers to the bone, brought our children up to have respect, Lived by the law of the land. We have gone short! We have we have done without to give our children the best life we can. We have strived to make the best of ourselves out there in the working community. We are the best of the best, We don’t need or want this Government. We are one of the reasons that our Government want Brexit. If we do stay in then the UK have to bring our pensions in line with EU countries. This Government does not want this! They do however want to continue to to send their monies overseas, and not pay a penny of tax to the UK! All this Government want is to fill their grimy pockets, whilst gearing, smirking, and turning their noses up at us. Our day will come ladies, Will the last person out of the UK please turn out the light, leave the government to their chummies who arrive by boat every day! Let’s see what these guys have got, that we haven’t?

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  172. They have clearly NOT investigated the facts.
    How do they sleep at night?
    Their Judgement day will come – no doubt about that.
    For the record, in 2014 the SPA calculator showed me that I would be due pension at 65 years of age and had shown me 60 years of age up until that point.
    When the age ‘suddenly rose to 66 years of age’, the SPA calulator continued to show 65 years of age until January 2020.
    I cannot possibly work at my current profession until then – I’m mentally and physically exhausted.

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  173. This is all a “way out” for the GOVERNMENT” this is NOT benefit for us it is rightly OUR money that the goverment used to bail banks and businesses etc with a promise to put it back when the paid it back which us “50”women are now asking for it back as the banks and businesses have paid there money back WE ARE NOT STUPID OR GOING AWAY UNTIL WE GET WHAT IS DUE TO US !!!

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  175. 100 pct I did not receive any letter I give anything to do with pensions and I did NOT receive anything about pension age going up the first I knew was 2013/14 god its slander

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