
Lawyers for Backto60 and the two complainants decided today to apply to the Supreme Court for permission to bring their case to the highest court in the UK.
The decision was taken after two of the Judges in the Court of Appeal, who heard their case, Lord Justice Sir Nicholas Underhill and Lady Justice Dame Vivien Rose, refused permission for them to go to the Supreme Court.
Applicants are allowed to go to the Supreme Court directly to plead their case to be heard if they are turned down by the Court of Appeal.
The decision was announced by Joanne Welch, the founder of Back to 60, appropriately during an interview with the BBC radio programme Woman’s Hour.
The decision comes after the Court of Appeal comprehensively rejected their case in a judgement announced on Tuesday. The judges ruled that the first judge , Ms Justice Lang, should not have allowed the judicial review to go ahead because it was a long time after the 1995 Act raising the pension age for women was passed. They agreed with the arguments put forward by Sir James Eadie, the Treasury Counsel, on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions that they had been adequately consulted about the rise in the pension age from 60 to 65 announced in 1995 and later extended to 66 under the Pensions Act in 2011.
Some 3.8 million women were affected by the change which Michael Mansfield, Henrietta Hill and Adam Straw, argued amounted to both direct and indirect age and sex discrimination and had led to women born in the 1950s being driven into poverty and ill health. This was rejected by the judge, chaired by Sir Terence Etherton, Master of the Rolls.
Joanne Welch told Woman’s Hour “I know that Julie Delve and Karen Glynn have been actively considering next steps. I believe that they are going to go ahead with an application for permission to have this heard in the Supreme Court”.
Plans to ask the Supreme Court to hear the case are now being drawn up by the legal team after Joanne Welch confirmed that the decision was taken at a meeting today.
WONDERFUL
AWESOME
WAY TO GO!!!
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Total injustice, thank you all who are taking this further.
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Who would have thought that women would still be begging for equality in this century? We can only pray for the Supreme Court to live up to its name.
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Thank you for your reporting David. Discrimination was not accepted I know but surely the facts that the changes were not phased in fairly is an issue. Had I been a man born in 1955 I would have had 1 year added to my pension. As a woman I have had 6 years because I am in the catchup phase. No government would have dared add 6 years all at once as a delay for men!
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As a Woman born in 1952 I am on the basic Lower Rate SP £135 a week
If I were a Man born in 1952 I would be on the Higher Rate Full SP
£175 a week
So a Man of the same age will always be receiving the Higher Rate Pension and everytime there is a percentage rise in the pensions the Man will be even more better off !
Good luck to the ladies supporting us ..
The Pension reeks of Discrimination and Inequality
towards Women once more !
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My husband was born in 1953 and he doesn’t get the new state pension either ! I think it’s around £168 a week not £175.20 which I will receive next month at 66
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I have to wait till 66 and 4months for my pension. Born1956.my sister born 1960 has hers 66 1month.whats that about.??
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If you were born in 1956 then you will get your state pension at 60 as will your sister if she was born early 1960. SP is payable in arrears but your entitlement will start on your 66th birthday. You can ask for it to be paid weekly if you prefer
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you do not get your pension at 60 if you were born in 1956 i was born 1955 and its age 66 when you can claim it not before then if you were born after oct 1954. well and truly robbed.
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I was born in July 1954 and didn’t get mine until 6 weeks before my 66th Birthday
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To be fair Judi Bywater made a mistake and meant 66.She has corrected it in a later comment. None of us are perfect we all make mistakes from time to time.
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Sorry David I didn’t see Judith bywaters correction but I put my comment on i stand corrected many opologies to both of you.
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No problem
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Correction…. I put 60 instead of 66. Both you and your sister will be eligible for your SP at 66.
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All women should ask for a copy of their original paperwork.
Cause as many problems for them as possible!
Thank you to everyone for all their hope and continued support.
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With them all the way .Thankyou for your support and publicity David
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Great news. Was devastated by Tuesdays judgement. Born in 1958, worked since I was 18 and took redundancy two years ago. Been living off redundancy payment since but it’s all but gone now. Considering claiming benefits now as I’m sure others are. Would rather not go down that route. Surely we will get what we paid for this time round. Third time lucky?
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this is good news we need to fight on it would be daft to give up now we have come thus far. I will contribute gladly if it helps win our case. a bit worried in case they do like the other judges have done and not take us seriously enough to Judge us fairly and take the DWP route again. Its got to be worth a try though. Good luck to all who are working hard to bring us Ladies Justice. Legal team Joanne and you too David for all your support and clear reports.
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To the whole team, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
How can they condemn the human rights record of other countries, you don’t need to physically harm or put a gun to someone’s head to suppress a person, they are no different than any other foreign dictatorship as they have mentally tortured, demoralised and stripped bare a group of individuals who have throughout history been suppressed by their governments because of their gender. We, all groups should unite together, rise up and stand for what is right ……it’s time, they will hear us. Count me in.
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Why can’t they lower the pension age because they so eager to. Put
it up quick enough so why can’t put it down.These people are playing
Russing rulet with people life’s it’s disgusting
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It would have been more morally equalising to lower men’s SPA but it wouldn’t have given the mysoginists as much satisfaction
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We have to stop being polite, suffragettes didn’t get anywhere being nice.
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Totally agree
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I TOTALLY agree with the person who says we are too polite I’m 64 & have Done things by the book all my life …..Sitting on the floor stopping the traffic for a couple of hours outside Westminster “as we did “, in the end sadly wasn’t enough to be heard …,This “AUTHORITARIAN” “ DO AS I SAY NOT DO AS I DO “ government , who are busy splashing OUR cash & the time we have lost with our families Don’t Forget ,…“ on big spend out” wads of money on them selves & holiday times with there families in there second homes etc ….We’ve been stripped of our dignity our belief in any human kindness , ,..years ago the whole country would have Down Tools & Supported the workers “ ….one young person commented on TV Q.T about the “GILET JAUNE”on the french” people sticking together over workers rights & mentioned pensions but Britain No Longer Has The Stomach ,..Since the miners strikes of the seventies .we have been” tamed & whipped“ at every opportunity “ we’ll girls girls lets stand up for our generation our rights & our families & give em a good whipping back “ this lot Don’t appreciate & certainly don’t respect “ Decent people “ So let’s give them a bit of what they do understand …..
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I have said that so many times and the NICE women tut tut tut. Exactly what successive Governments have relied upon, they have even admitted that the expected NICE response from us gave them the confidence to proceed with this disgusting injustice.
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Good news never give up.
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With a multi millionaire Conservative Cabinet, they do not care women in poverty.
Quite honestly I am disgusted with them.
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So it should.where did the money go.the government said it was alot to pay back.?also the employers contributions.this needs investigated.what was our money used / borrowed for
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Pay off the national debt and get the bankers out of trouble. The financial cost of full restitution should not enter into it. We paid in, so they should pay out, regardless of cost. After all, they seem to find plenty of money for everything else.
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I was 61 on the 15 sep .i was made redundant last November after 45 years working care .i am no looking after my sick mother and cant even get carers allowance i have no home of my own, no car . Absolutely fed up and couldnt believe the outcome on tues .like to thank the two ladies who are fighting are cause much appreciated
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Great news. Thank you for letting us know…
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If this fails, is there the possibility of taking it to the European courts ? if so this will have to be done quickly, before the UK actually leaves the EU….Perhaps it would be as well to prepare for this now, to do so asap !
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That’s what I was wondering.
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I wonder how many realise that BT60 are only asking for an apology. Do women realise that it’s not going to get them any money back? Seems a lot of fuss and stress, not to mention wasted money, to carry this on any longer
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that is frankly completely misleading info and I think you know it.
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Is it? Can you explain why you think it’s misleading. My understanding is that women believed the JR could get them “full restitution” but you and I both know that’s not true.
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We have already left the European Union, we are now in a Transitional Period to tie up loose ends.
It’s thanks to those two stupid women who went to the European Court of Human rights in the 80s to not be compelled to retire at 60 that we are in this sorry mess now.
We have no longer any right of redress in the European Court of Human Rights.
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Good on them and like many have already said, if it was too late to appeal in the first place, then why on earth were we allowed to appeal the decision of first ruling on all points. I am behind you all the way, I was despondent on Tuesday but after a couple of sleeps and lots of thought more determined than ever. Thank You David Back to 60 & All onwards & upwards.
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I was born in 1953 and should have retired at 60 in 2013. I was not informed my pension age had changed until I requested a statement from the DWP in 2010 !
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It was bad enough having 5 years added and not being informed but to add insult to injury they added another year in 2011 I retired in 2013! Enough notice I think not.
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Let’s hope any fundraising has more clarity on how it’s spent and by who, that acknowledgement is given to the many other women and groups outside of backto60 who have contributed substantially already. That we have clarity on what the ask is and it’s transparent,…and reasonable, not just an apology.
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Not convinced it’s worth the cost in law there was no discrimination
Why not assist WASPI prove it was maladministration
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The Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman (PHSO) will never find any ‘maladministration’ in the Waspi Cases. To get the truth about how the PHSO works, it is worth reading the book ‘What’s the Point of the Ombudsman’ by Reynolds and the PHSO Pressure Group. It has a small section on the Waspi complaints and although it includes NHS cases, it makes very clear the systems used by the PHSO. Remember that PHSO is funded and works to support the Government – it won’t ever bite the hand that feeds it. It is questionable why certain lawyers ever recommended this route when it is common knowledge how bad it is and how incredibly low the success rate is. PHSO is not a legal system unlike the Courts, despite it’s glossy website that may make people believe it is a ‘justice system’. If you cannot afford the book, at least read the recommendations below it on Amazon.
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Give it up action causes reaction, talk is cheap, and we will all be dead by the time the waspi group get anywhere, wolves in sheep clothing
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Surely it was theft? A contract was broken unilaterally and money owed , by virtue of us all paying in in good faith, was taken out and never replaced. Theft is the word that should be being used and nobody, not our gov, should be above the law.
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It was theft!
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And probably fraud too.
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Thank you B Smith – I have all along thought I had made a contract with the government, in fact the contract is compounded by having a number called a National Insurance Number. This contract legally required me to pay not only NI but Income Tax whilst I worked. Like an employers pension now, the NI money was invested on our behalf and was to pay towards our pensions and NHS. I believe as a previous employer myself that eventually the two parties were merged into HMRC and in all but name are one and the same and the NI tax no longer invests for people’s pensions but is in fact used immediately the same as income tax for ‘running the country’ or basically all in one spending pot. Even so, my contractual agreement was that my pension provider would invest my money ready for me to receive at 60 years of age. Like a private pension we should have a choice of receiving it at what is now termed early ie: like our own past and present Civil Servants at say 60 years ( though they can get theirs from 55yrs) at a lower rate than if we waited until 66 yrs.
Furthermore, I understand to get my pension I ‘only’ need 35 qualifying years, so for eg: starting work paying NI at 20yrs old + 35 yrs = 55yrs………. One problem is HMRC have no records of any contributions of any kind pre 1978 so those qualifying years cannot be counted – I have been told this first hand by HMRC.
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Thank you, the result was very disappointing. If it can be heard in the Supreme Court that would be wonderful. Thank you again for all the hard work you have put in for us 50’s ladies.
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I’m not happy that fear of action by other groups with grievances against the government was a reason for rejecting the claim. If Master of the Rolls wanted to be more patronising it would have been difficult. Is the Supreme Court able to study the deliberate underhand withholding of information contained in the secret memos and if they find that the government were dishonest can they overturn primary legislation?
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Yes, that should have had no bearing on it whatsoever and nor should the financial cost of full restitution either.
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Thank you for all the hard work done on our part, 1954 my birth year, please keep going XXX ❤️
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Thank you. Just read about 1995 act!!
To put record straight I was widowed in 2003 age 49.
When all financial papers were sorted and my plan was put in front of me. I was told that when I reached 60 I would be getting my state pension.
In fact I am now 66 14th Sept. Just ‘entitled’ this week.
At no time did I receive change of years.
So onward and upward ladies.
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Brilliant
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It has to go to the Supreme Court that is our only chance for justice. 🙏
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I think that it would never revert to back to 60, I think it should be fought on the basis of the lack of clarity and information that was presented. When the article of the other day said the finds where clear they never informed everybody only a select few. We where not informed and we require a compensation based on the facts.
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So sad I am 64 in December so
Grateful for all the work they have done
But I think this government can do
What ever they like and no one
Question them.
Even if we got the go ahead they
Would make it go another year, then
They buy the judges.
Good luck they got their money tree
But none for us.
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Well done ladies.Keep fighting
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I am confused as to what happend about the men being able to have their contributions paid and woman have done without, surely that is discrimination or maybe favouritism towards men same thing I suppose.
Where is all the support from the MPs who were supportive before the election. Its right what the news said, if a different party got in it would have been a different story. This tory government frustrate the life out of me but they were voted in (not by me). So maybe those of you who did vote for them were naive in thinking they would would be beaten down.
I think its selfish of these judges to say no to an appeal on the grounds it is too long since it was passed in 1995, lets face it I am sure the 3.5million woman like me were busy working there backsides off as well as bringing up a family, whilst supporting there husband/ partner whilst. he was building his pension pot. For those who were divorced having to start again building your own pension when it was too late.
I feel cheated and discriminated against. As for maladministration, throughout this battle, the government have maintained they did it right, I know I wasn’t informed until 2 years before 60th birthday I am now 65 but the man keeps on telling the Judges there was adequate notifications so maybe 3.5 million of us are telling fibs. LOL
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Let’s keep on trying the younger generation need our jobs and we are old to keep worker looking after grandchildren and elderly parents why cant the Tories see this
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Excellent news! Thank you to all involved taking this case forward. As 50s women we all stand to gain from this BackTo60 initiative through the courts, they have mandate to speak for us all & get us back our paid dues. I will gladly give to a crowdfunder & have no concerns. I was 37 in 1995 & knew nothing of the changes that were being made about my state pension. I want FULL RESTITUTION….it’s my money that has been stolen. Good Luck everyone , I look forward to the new campaign!
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They aren’t asking for your money back. They are asking for an apology. The court can’t reverse legislation so even if you won the case you won’t be getting any money.
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Yes take it to the Supreme Court , cant let the Government get away with this.
My own personal circumstances are that I am constantly worried about money even though I have over 41 years of national insurance contributions I still have another 4 years to wait
Scandalous all those years of working and not receiving a letter either about the change in pension.
I only found out by chance of new rules when I was made redundant at 58
Couldn’t get another job despite applying for over 100 jobs!!!
Let’s keep fighting for this
Lorraine
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This is outrageous! You have a lot of support here from all us ladies born in the fifties. I certainly cannot ever remember getting anything advising me that my pension age would be drastically increased – six years is utterly terrible to have to wait.
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This is the biggest injustice l will of worked over 50 years inc NHS by the time l receive state pension like many women . Am so emotional and tired of this battle. Just feel the stress is reducing my life expectancy. Probably will never see it anyway what’s stopping government raising this again for us . Plus the risks with this pandemic for over 60s and having to work . If we had our SP would be able to retire and keep safe. There is no way we were informed officially at any stage. I’ve kept up to date with politics Absolute insult to 50s women and the deception of our monies paid in!!
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Yay! You go girls! Let us know if you start a crowd funder, as I will be first in line with my purse. It’s despicable that “pensioners” have been forced down this route by greedy politicians and mealy mouthed judges.
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We will not give up and we will not be silenced, we all paid our full national insurance “stamp” most from the age of 16 years, this was a promise that we would at the age of 60 be able retire with our pensions.
There are 3.8 million of us and this incredible injustice will not stop with us 50’s women. It’s us now, and if the govt get away with this it will be YOU next. We’re not feeble little old ladies who will quietly fade into the background, many of us have degrees and many more are unwell or tired – we want to hand over to the younger generation but can not afford to.
Disgraceful
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Fabulous! Fingers crossed we are granted permission to take this obscene injustice and blatant discrimination to the Supreme court.
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Fingers crossed
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Thank you David, the claimants and Back to 60 for taking this higher. We all appreciate what you and the legal team are doing..
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PPI comes to mind …..miss sold Ni and pension claim back ???
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Well done ladies, David and the team, fight don’t give up. Why should dwp, gov, and the men win, where would the men be without women producing the future generations to come, the breeding would have stopped. If the male judges wives were in this age bracket I’m sure they would be shouting from the hilltops for justice. They don’t give a shit with the salaries they get they would not know how to live on the bare minimum wage or on uc,. Please could more cases be put forward and not just 2. Can somebody find out where all our money as gone.
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There’s no hope for a fair and unbiased outcome for 1950’s until this current – or could it be corrupt – Tory Government is gone and we have some ‘real’ politicians in place.
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I sincerely hope that we can take our case to the Supreme courts . Surely someone will see the absolute travesty borne by 50s women when 9.8 million men up to 2018 had NI payments made by so they could retire early. Unbelievable!! Plus previous governments since Thatchers time had stopped paying their part of the deal into the NI pot. That’s where it all went wrong without the added problem if 50s women not being allowed to pay into a private scheme especially if they were part time which most of us were because of child care. No help in those times:(
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Thank you I will support you all the way we have to have justice it’s our money
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This Government and previous Governments are nothing but Gangsters with suits on.
As well as the Judiciary. Discussted. 😡
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Fully behind back to 60. Definitely the way to go.
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My poor mother started working at 13 as her mum couldn’t afford to keep her at school. She emigrated to the UK around 28. She’s now almost 63. She was meant to retire 3 years ago and has 3 years to go. Her health has kept declining. She’s had 4 surgeries in 3 years. She was absolutely healthy at 60. By the time she can retire she’s not going to be in good health or will be forced to retire through bad health. It’s really unfair this has happened to many women. We must keep up the fight.
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I fully agree with taking this to the supreme court, I am 1956 and in 2009 I was having a meeting with my financial advisor to discuss the steps to take regarding my private pension as it was nearing my 60th birthday. The only reason I had this small pension pot was because of Margaret Thatcher changing the rules so everyone had a chance and I was lucky to be able to afford it. We actually discussed the SPA and even he did not know what was happening and suggested I ring and ask, when I did ring DWP / Pension Service in 2009 they told me it was still 60 and when I said we were hearing it was 65, I was told the new law had not been enacted. How on earth could we know with such conflicting information. I finally got a letter in 2013 telling me it was 66, I’m still waiting for the first letter to inform me of the rise to 65!
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Definitely agree with that one this needs to be done, the young men and women need to get full time jobs to contribute towards their pension fund not just becoming dole walkers, we have worked for years to get Notjing, and after having children and Cancer they still want more from us ! Bastards!!!
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Applying to the Supreme Court is excellent news. I sincerely hope that the highest Court in the land will deliver justice to us all. If nothing else, it shows that we aren’t going away and that the fight goes on. Good luck to the legal team, Joanne and the team and David. In the meantime it would be nice if CEDAW were to be placed into UK law before any Supreme Court appeal were heard. What’s the likelihood of that considering the Government we have in charge of this country!
Good luck to all and keep well.
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Onwards and upwards. I just cant tell you how disgusted I am with this government. We will keep coming at them. We have lost the battle, not the war.
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Lets stop all NIC
They re getting rid of SSP so why are we still paying
We are now paying in to a works pension as well as income tax
Especially the young ones they will never het a state pension
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Thankyou for all youve done I never knew about this until I had that dreaded letter, £ 47.000 I payed in and have not had .
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Great news. Not to do this would give credence to the despicable way they changed were introduced. Something with the impact this was going to have should have ensured transparency and accountability. Thank you for your support.
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Wishing you all the best for this next phase! Really hope they will listen and do something about it! 🙏🏻 xx
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Do we have to use Mr Mansfield again!! He couldn’t even find a witness!!! The judge even had to ask him did he want 5 mins to compose himself at one stage!!!!! I have no faith in him anymore
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Just discovered on Ministry of Justice website, open to all to read the massive salaries the Judges earn.
Master of the Rolls, Etherington £234,184 pa
Underhill and Rose £215,094 each pa.
Etherington retires next year, I wonder want his Pension will be, plus any possible golden handshake!
They’re all paid by the Ministry of Justice (Government). I’m happy that Back to 60 are attempting to push our cash to the Supreme Court, but even happier that the UN are investigating the UK Gov, under the CEDAW convention. Just listened to Video of Joanne and apparently only the 4th time in 20yrs UN has done this. Start worrying BoJo!!
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Must fight on
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Well done ladies dont give up the fight. I waited until I was 66 before my state pension started and I definitely never had any correspondence about having to work after 60.
Good luck fingers crossed
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Shouldn’t the Government be locked up & the key 🔐 be thrown away for misappropriation of public funds !!!!!…. R. Maxwell
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Thank you for going ahead with this to the Supreme Court. I really hope we get some back up from them. We really appreciate your support ♥️
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No doubt the DWP made up their so called evidence in saying they informed us ladies. No proof whatsoever and the Government needs to justify to us ladies where did our contributions go. The DWP informed the government of the shortfall and that’s why they hitched our retirement up from 60 to 62 then to 65 and now to 66!
Also men get one years change we ladies get 6……discrimation you decide !!
Credits for men’s pensions to make up their contributions but non for women.
Shambles through and through and the government know it will cost too much to give us our missing contributions. 55 years I will have contributed to this country and 30 years is all you need for the new pension……interesting how much extra I get on top of the basic pension I get. Good luck in the Supreme Court 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
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This beggars believe that our government had no problem in hiding information . Net alone failing to accept that women were treated differently . Being one of these women .The 1950s backto60 group of more than 3.8 million women like me forced to work 6 more years to 1966. The government never offered to pay my National Insurance for my extra 6years. As they did for men from 60 to 65 … 3.8 million women should have had our National Insurance paid for by this government for 6 extra years . This is not equality for both women and men . Will I get a refund of my national insurance and be treated fairly .
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Successive political parties had nothing but contempt for those who vote for them. They simply dont care once they are in and busy feathering their own nests. We have spent our lives working and paying in to be walked over like the dirt under their shoes. Thank you ladies for all you are doing. All power to you. I hope i live long enough to see a restitution of our rights /
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I’m so glad that they are going to ask the Supreme Court to hear this case. I hope that there is a good response as this is definitely a case to be heard again.
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How is it that the younger People who now have and will , retire after April 2016 only need 10 years contributions to claim the full Higher State pension at the moment £175 a week , while Women of the early 50s had to work hard to get 34 + years , to be able to claim full Old Rate SP at £135 a week …. instead of the Newer rate of £175 a week because they retired just before April 2016 and were not a couple of months younger ! Grhhh makes my blood boil !
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Do you know what ?? I was thinking exactly the same thing the other day …YES !!! MIS-SOLD Pensions …No Win ..no Fee ! 😀 don’t forget accumulated interest !
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Thank you Julie and Karen, Back to 60 , the legal team and you David for supporting us. Following the court decision I, felt pretty worthless and not a little patronised. Then I watched PMQs. SNP MP Martyn Day asked Boris Johnson what he was going to do for the 1950’s ladies following the loss of our appeal. BJ replied “I will have to study the decision and will write to you”. No mention of writing to us but then, we probably wouldn’t read it anyway! I’m fuming now, so let’s keep going ladies, we can’t let anyone brush us off like that!
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In response to Tricia’s comment. Have I missed something or has SNP MP Martyn Day been a lone voice in Parliament asking the Prime Minister what he intends to do about we 1950’s Women. I wasn’t exactly inspired by Johnsons response, especially since he has already failed to keep true to intention to look at our issues with ‘fresh eyes and vigour’. I hope Mr Day will press Johnson for the reply ‘in writing’ he should be receiving in due course. Where are all the other MPs that claim they support us and why haven’t they raised our issues in Parliament. Seemed very keen whilst the Election was going on and all now seem to have disappeared. Funny that!!!
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Lauta, Yes he was the lone voice at PMQ’s – not awaiting Johnson’s reply with baited breath.
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Me neither David he’s and out and out liar, its not the first time he has promised to look at it with fresh eyes, he’s a disgrace.
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Inequality has been exacerbated rather than quelled by the unfair way the age increases have been implemented. Thank you David Hencke for your continued support.
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So pleased that this decision has been taken. We need justice for the way this was done to us. Retired when I was 59 thinking I would get my pension in 12 months only to find out afterwards I had to wait another 7 years. I had no notification whatsoever.
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I think the Supreme Court should re-think the whole situation , I an many more will have paid in for over 50 years the time we receive our state Pension, yet you only need to pay in 35 years !!
It’s made it impossible for women to retire early, this has also impacted on youngsters getting jobs an employees in companies are having to wait longer to get promoted into more senior roles , time to think
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50’s women have got to fight on for justice
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I based my Divorce settlement on the fact I thought I would receive my Pension at 60 Years of age and did not ask for part of my Ex’s Service Pension after spending 33 Years as an RAF wife. I now have no private pension and had to wait 5 Years and 5 months extra t receive my State Pension.
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Well done let’s keep fighting this total injustice. Born 1956 never received any notification from DWP of the intended pension age increase, lived at present address for 35 years. I heard 18 months before my 60th birthday of the first age increase and later it being 66. Still so many 50’s women not aware of the BACKTO60 group.
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With all due respect, I think that some important information has been left out.
ie that the DWP/ Government had not announced nor notified women concerned of the changes. I , for one, had regularly checked my pension age date and it stayed at 60 until 2014. My birthyear is 1958.
No chance to change tracks and enhance career especially working in the NHS.
It only changed from 65 to 66 in April 2020.
So , what’s their game?
I’m appalled at the judges decision and quite frankly, the note they made concerning their fear that a triumph for Backto60 would cause others to appeal.
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This would be wonderful I am 64 and have never been notified of changes in pension age I suffer with copd and am still working as a carer it would be lovely to be able to retire thank you all that have fought do hard for our case
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Good Luck! At the appeal where was the evidence that the ladies HAD been fully consulted??? There are STILL women who do not know that they will retire at 67/8 yrs of age!! Too late 😵 that Is due to DWP delaying the millions of complaints of Maladministration. The DWP wrote and informed us that our complaint would be delayed due to the JR Appeal. This is NOT Justice!!
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A whole generation of women affected…for each one of us, its all our female school mates from primary, junior, secondary and college and uni…sisters and friends. We can’t help each other as we are all affected…3-4 years older or younger…
Any occupational pension possibly taken from age 50 onwards (there was no communication even as late as 2011) however small is deducted from any job seekers allowance leaving little or nothing. Unless there is a male partner or other family women are far worse off than people transfering to universal credit…its a wait with litte money for 6 years.
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It would appear from an article I have just read in the Financial Times that this Government appears to have ‘gone rogue’! The House of Lords and The Courts do what they can but given the result we had last Tuesday I fail to see when or how things will change. Especially as The Courts are basically Government employees paid by the Ministry of Justice. After reading the article it now becomes a little clearer that our so called ‘silent’ MP supporters have been nowhere to be seen. For the oldest Democracy in the world it is unbelievable that Johnsons Government ignores and disregards the Lower House and introduces Laws with no consultation or debate whatsoever. This is what happens when the Country has such a PM as Johnson with a huge majority. This is the man who would like to style himself as the new Churchill. No way mate, you’ll never manage it!! We can only hope that Back to 60 soldier on as they have been doing on our behalf and that in the meantime MP’s, The Courts etc start to really stand up and be counted to put an end to our misery and injustice. The Country is in a terrible mess with so many things that Back to 60 really needs to remain prominent so we aren’t pushed back to become ‘invisible’ and something that has now been ‘dealt with’. In my opinion that is exactly, I believe, what Johnson thinks The Courts did for him on Tuesday.
Stay strong.
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Good luck on behalf of all us 50s women xx
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Yes indeed, good luck!! We cannot give up!
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NO BEING SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET !!!!!
YOU CANNOT TAKE THE FIGHT OUT OF NEARLY 4 MILLION ANGRY COMMITTED WOMEN
WE ARE IN 2020 NOT THE DARK AGES
SUPREME COURT YAY!!
WE KNOW WHAT INJUSTICE IS
EVERYONE OF US JUST WANT WHAT WE PAID INTO THE BANK ACCOUNTS !!!!
David thank you for all your DEDICATION
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Careful what you wish for. If they gave me back what I paid in it would last 3 years maximum. Many women relied on nic credits to make up their years so have paid in very little. I hope to get out a heck of a lot more than I ever paid in
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Please this is a wrong that must be corrected we have all paid into our pensions without fail this is our money taken from us.
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I am one of these women working the extra 6 years …Thank you to all you lovely people who are fighting the cause.
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We aren’t going away !
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Ladies you have my full support ,I myself have to work untill I’m 66 the job I do is very heavy as a carer I have to be fit and healthy I am now 65 and not as fit as I use to be and have slowed down which the younger ones complained about does this action affect ladies in Scotland as well good luck
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I am 63 and work for HMRC. Every day I am pushed out of my comfort zone and made to do a jiob that fills me with anxiety. It is affecting my family life and health. I was not told of rise in pension. I worked every day through lockdown, in the office. While people were receiving money for being at home, and still are. They will probably take money from my hard earned pension to help repay the countries debts. They are now bleating on about lack of employment for the younger ones. Well give me some of the £48000 they’ve stolen from me, and give my job to the youngsters now. IT really isn’t rocket science guys 😡
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The JR was never about getting any money back. It was asking for an apology so even if it had been successful you wouldn’t have been any richer
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You really don’t understand the process of what would have happened if they had won. They would have to be a remedy and that would not be just an apology.
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So at least we agree that the JR was never about getting full restitution
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no we don’t. It was a means to getting an injustice resolved – by arguing that it was discriminatory – it opened the way to a remedy. Before the appeal hearing you will find I wrote that the one thing the judges wouldn’t do is order full compensation for everybody because of the nature of what a judicial review is. Frankly the jr would have been the only way to get this government to hand back any money to the 50swomen – the pensions minister doesn’t think they should get a penny in compensation let alone full restitution.
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I will have to disagree. Even thought BT60 were telling women the JR was for “full restitution” it clearly wasn’t. It was about an apology. BT60 may have hoped that an apology woukd lead to something more but there was no reason why it would have. Many women believed they had a chance of a big fat cheque, which was unfortunate, but at least they now know “full restitution” was always a pipe dream
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They were only asking for acknowledgement and an apology so there was never any chance of financial redress. David you know this. You have surely read the court result?
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Born 1955 worked all my life …… sort of on the front line …….I’m. getting That I’ve totally had enough my body saying no…… good luck David you have done brill ….. and rest of the team…..,Government put pension age up far to fast …… never considered age we started work ….. fingers crossed
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Unbelievable miscarriage of justice. Thank you to all those determined to pursue to the end. I was born in 1957.
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I was born in 1959, little did I know that I was going to find myself at 61, living alone, divorced,living in a flat after my divorce, watching the pennies every month and with the prospect of working another 5 years in the NHS as a nurse. A job I love but which means Im exhausted and take to my bed at 9pm most week nights as even though Im fit for my age its exhausting.
Is this fair, I would have had my state pension now and could have cut my hours.
I feel very cheated by the government and feel that we were just given this raw deal behind the scenes with no say whatsoever.
So well done to the Backto60 campaign , Id love to think you can win this but sadly, to the government we are only women.
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We had a contract with government !! For gods sake don’t these prmeople get it.??? We kept to.our side of the bargain to retire at 60 they reneged on it thats the truth
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Good on you back to 60 and to Julie delve and Karen Glyn POWER TO WOMEN ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL
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Another pension blunder that came to light is to be resolved soon when married women who have not been receiving the right amount of pension are very rightly going to be compensated with a lump sum and a increase in their pension.
Here is hoping this will help us 50s women to also get some compensation and earlier retirement for us all soon too.
We were already physically mentally and emotionally suffering enough before Covid came and we are now at increased risk in so many ways, I hope and pray we all survive and the Supreme court will help us get the justice we deserve and future retirees are treated with the compassion, respect and dignity deserved.
I hope we get more high profile men and women and MPs on our side to increase public awareness seen as we cannot take to the streets in mass proportion at present without breaking the law so the more we get news coverage the better .
OUR LIVES MATTER !!
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Brilliant news!!!
Women have always been discriminated against, having to juggle working, looking after their family and caring for elderly parents and Grandchildren without any help.
We are not Super women, we are just Women that needed to retire as we are struggling to cope with it all, after having our Pensions moved to 6 years without informing us
Thank you!!!
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Sincere thanks to everyone helping us 1950s women.
Stay safe
Denise
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Men and Parliament mostly are wanting women kept down be an archaic Parliament still depriving those woman of their rights .At this time treated like 2nd class people with no rights .750 is all we have to live on barely able to eat most times
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Good on them, parliment are selfish corrupt and thieves .why and how can these liars stand there ans more or less Tell us that if women work we are not as good as men
This is theiving from our future we are every good as men .I worked even when i had babies went back when kids after few weeks
So you come and tell us why are we classes as lower people not fit for decancy and .who do you think you are .i worked 10 hrs at times went to back part time along with work to get higher teaching assistant whilst working .You selfish .You think youre better than us well NO YOU ARE NOT AND WE SHOULD BE TREATED THAT WAY @O WILST HAVING KIDS CLEANING COOKING WASHING OH AND DECORATE IN MY HOUSE .(I DONT SEE YOU LAZY SODS GETTING OF YOUR BACKSIDES .??????????????
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All working and have had worked till pension should be paid .why are we treated like 2nd civilians .this is discrimination and had to be stopped .Why is a man get treated properly yet women that worked are disciminated against women .like we are lower humans disgusting in parliments eyes its like 2nd hand BUT WE ARE AS GOOD AS YOU ????? In fact without us women these jumped up big heads they wouldnt know what the hek to do
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God bless good luck xxxx
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I just wonder could the European Court Of Human rights be approached even though we have left. It surely is a breach those . It can not be right that a woman loses
Her pension but for a few months or even days of her retirement.
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Great news. Appears my previous questions have been answered. Thank you
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