Jocelynne Scutt leads charge for CEDAWinLAW at APPG on 50s women pensions

Jocelynne Scutt

The All Party Parliamentary Group on 50swomen pensions finally heard from CEDAWinLaw about what they want to see the Government do about responding to compensation for the 50s women deprived of their pensions for six years.

Until this month the only organisation allowed to approach the group were WASPI and their lobbyists Higginson Strategy. The meeting was in private. An attempt to allow me to attend was banned by the chair, Rebecca Long-Bailey, the Independent MP for Salford, on the grounds that none of the other meetings had been open to journalists.

However I was not to be put off by that and have now managed to piece together who was there, what they said and how they were received.

The two main speakers were Joanne Welch, who organises CEDAWinLAW and Jocelynne Scutt, the former Australian judge, author of a report on the discriminatory nature of the treatment of the 3.6 million women and chair of the people’s tribunal, that examined the issue.

Their arguments will be familiar to my readers – seeking mediation with the government to decide the level of compensation rather than accepting the guidelines by the former Parliamentary Ombudsman, Robert Behrens, for limited compensation for partial maladministration. They were also given a strong briefing from Jocelynne Scutt on the direct and indirect discrimination against the women. She also welcomed Sir Keir Starmer’s commitment to using civil procedures such as mediation to end disputes – though the government is silent about doing this for 50s women.

What was clear to the group was this was the first time they had been told what CEDAWinLAW stood for – including a suggestion that the money could be paid in a lump sum and tax free over five years on top of their pension.

Of course the government does not want to get into such talks and would rather keep postponing making any payments.

Sir Julian Lewis MP

Here the strongest condemnation of this government’s approach came from Sir Julian Lewis, the Conservative MP for New Forest East.

He said at the meeting that the treatment of 50swomen was rather similar to all other cases where the government owes large sums of money in compensation – likening the delay in reaching a settlement to those seeking compensation in the contaminated blood and sub postmasters cases.

” The government wants to spin it out as long as possible hoping that people will get disheartened and give up or will have died by the time they can get any compensation.”

He said last night: ” The delay is equivalent to asking these poor old ladies to wait to end the both the First and Second World Wars for payment. The six year delay on payment of their pension is equivalent to the time the UK spent fighting each of the two world wars.”

Rebecca Long-Bailey MP: Official Portrait. Pic Credit: Chris McAndrew UK Parliament

So who did turn up to hear the case? Present in person as well as Sir Julian Lewis were Labour peer Lord Bryn Davies of Brixton; Ian Byrne, Independent MP for Liverpool, West Derby, who joined Dr Scutt when she presented a letter and petition to Downing Street earlier this year; Ruth Jones, Labour MP for Newport and Islwyn and Adrian Ramsey Green Party MP for Waveney. Five other MPs sent their personal assistants to the meeting. They were Chris Bloore, Labour MP for Redditch; Bell Ribeiro-Addy, Labour MP for Clapham and Brixton Hill; Mary Kelly Foy, Labour MP for the City of Durham; Kate Osborne, Labour MP for Jarrow and Gateshead East and Aspana Begum, Independent MP for Poplar and Limehouse.

The delegation did feel they had a fair hearing and Rebecca Long-Bailey praised them for giving such a clear description of their aims and promised to take their views on board. We shall see.

For those wanting more detail Jocelynne Scutt was initerviewed on Salford City Radio by Ian Rothwell this week and outlined a similar case there. This is the local radio station whose MP is Rebecca Long-Bailey, where I also have appeared on a number of occasions.

The interview is below.

Joanne Welsh has a five minute call for mediation on YouTube which you can hear below

We now await development but don’t hold your breath for an early resolution.

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6 thoughts on “Jocelynne Scutt leads charge for CEDAWinLAW at APPG on 50s women pensions

  1. The other thing that has not even been mentioned is the loss of additional pension earned if you received your state pension after April 2016. In my case Β£80+ per month, so I am already Β£6000 out of pocket just on that, let alone the loss of 5 years pension. So the suggested compensation of between Β£1000-Β£2950 is an absolute insult and smack in the face!

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  2. David, thank you so much for sticking with this and giving an update. No surprises there – they tried divide and conquer (deal with WASPI who surrendered and only asked for compensation); drag it out as long as possible and deprive us of heat on top of rendering large numbers of us unwell in the hope we die off quickly.

    I want recompense for the money of which they deprived me by breaching a 42-year contract and compensation for the additional harms they caused e.g. ill-health.

    Any other organisation who behaved so dishonestly would have to do so – eg The Post Office sub postmasters/mistresses whose numbers were much fewer than the Over60s! But they weren’t only women…

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  3. The article as always was interesting to read. I do not know whether or not CEDAW in LAW has not previously been invited to discussions with the APPG. But I do know that groups other than WASPI have been invited both in person and in writing. I was involved in a meeting with Rebecca Long Bailey on behalf of CASPI the group I Chair, and have submitted written documents to the APPG through Rebecca Long Baileys personal assistant. On the day we were spoke to the APPG we did so with another group. The APPG had a series of similar meetings that day. CASPI has recently tried to get a meeting with the Pensions Minister but were not able to secure a meeting but we were advised we could provide written document which we have done and have sent that to the APPG. We have always found the APPG interested and willing to listen. They also take on board our views and comments.

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  4. CEDAWinLAW (backto60) alone has published evidence in these matters out of its legal challenges, reports and evidence submissions and, solely, represents 3.5m #50sWomen

    CEDAWinLAW’s Parliamentary support as recorded in Hansard and The Rt Hon Sir George Howarth MP’s ADR Group is unmatched.Another group published a report referred to in Dr Scutt’s recent interview on Salford City Radio.

    The said report appears in the main stream media and sometimes in unbalanced articles that, oddly, exclude CEDAWinLAW’s evidence* out of both UK & International Laws onside 3.5m #50sWomen.

    CEDAWinLAW’S Judge’s Report* was lauded by eg the current Minister for Health in an APPG meeting during a series of Parliamentary presentations 2022-2023.

    Other small groups represent victims’ views within localities: none has independently proven laws as onside victims.

    Any victim of this injustice who fails to claim more than is currently being promulgated by another group seemingly for a few queueing women, may come to regret it.

    The question is why would anyone not use these onside laws to ensure the best outcome for all concerned?

    CEDAWinLAW thanks The Best Team, pro bono experts in their fields in UK and abroad, legal teams, MPs and 1 million supporters for enabling it to represent all 3.5m #50sWomen.

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