Can the Independent Child Sex Abuse Inquiry really properly investigate Elm Guest House?


The former Elm Guest House in Barnes, south west London, now a respectable residential property


The news that the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse is to investigate events  surrounding Elm Guest House in the London borough of Richmond is to be welcomed. But I have serious doubts whether the inquiry will have the time and space to properly investigate.

The item is one of a number sandwiched into three weeks of hearings under the Westminster  strand of the inquiry and Alexis Jay, the chair made it clear ,last month there is no intention to make any of the investigations exhaustive.

As she said:”It is important that everyone, including the public, understands that this is not, and has never intended to be, an exhaustive examination of  all Westminster-related child sexual abuse issues. Even focusing on institutional issues, a comprehensive
examination of all the allegations that have been made, and all the questions that have been raised, particular on the internet, would involve hearings lasting months, if not years.”

So what will this brief cover. Again  according to her statement it will be limited:

“Another category of these investigations concerns allegations relating to Elm Guest House. Those allegations include possible misconduct on the part of the Metropolitan Police in the way in which investigations into goings on at Elm Guest House were conducted, and also allegations that the fruits of those investigations were covered up.

“The latter allegations include the well-known allegation that evidence relating to Leon Brittan’s presence at and/or involvement with  Elm Guest House was suppressed. We propose to call some more detailed evidence relating to these cases at the hearings next year.”

So even the remit looking at Elm Guest House will be confined.

I got involved in reporting this after a source  who was neither a  child sex abuse survivor nor a politician, stumbled across it during an unrelated dispute. The source had also discovered – and I have never had time  to investigate this – allegations of elder abuse at a home in Richmond. Until then as a journalist I had never investigated any cases of alleged child sexual abuse.

What followed was a whirlwind of allegations, some involving national politicians, others pointing to a lack of duty of  care for children by Richmond Council at Grafton Close children’s home, a muddled police investigation, and a series of  very disturbing stories from people  who were children at the home at the time.

Father Anthony McSweeney

Father Anthony McSweeney; Pic Credit: BBC

It ended with the successful prosecution of  a well connected Roman Catholic priest, Father Tony McSweeney and charges against the former deputy manager of the children’s home., John Stingemore.  McSweeney was sentenced to three years in gaol, Stingemore died a fortnight before he was due to appear before Southwark Crown Court.

Unlike Operation Midland the Met Police  investigation did produce results. In McSweeney’s case it forced the Roman Catholic Church to commission a report into what went wrong when it was revealed that the paedophile priest was caught some 30 years later with a file of indecent pictures on his computer while playing a major pastoral role with young boys and men in Norwich scouts, boxing clubs and with the Norwich City Football youth team.

While the evidence about any connection between Elm Guest House and Grafton Close was never tested in court because of Stingemore’s death the trial did reveal that both McSweeney accompanied  by Stingemore took boys away from the home without permission for weekends at a flat in Bexhill. They were present where various alleged sexual assaults took place. If Stingemore had been convicted, the jury would have found out that soon after leaving Richmond, and working for another authority he was arrested and convicted of child sexual abuse.

All this suggested that Richmond Council was seriously amiss in looking after children in its care and that both elected councillors and officials should have known what was  going on. But it looks that the inquiry would not look at this aspect, allowing the council to be let off the hook.

As serious as this is when Elm Guest House was raided by the police, Grafton Close was designated as a place of safety for any children that might be found there. Effectively the police  unwittingly were sending children to an establishment run by a paedophile with a paedophile friend who regularly visited it.And by alerting Grafton Close in advance if there was a connection with Elm Guest House, the establishment would have got a tip off about the raid.

As for the place itself  it seems like many hotels that welcomed gay guests in late 1970s and early 1980s, tolerated both consenting gay adults staying overnight and possibly paedophiles. The fact is unlike today homosexuality was viewed as a closet activity, driving both adults and paedophiles to the same venues. The situation is reflected in hotels used as gay haunts in North Wales at the same time.

As for VIPs and a police cover up  at Elm Guest House the inquiry will have its work cut out. Perhaps they can throw light on the Metropolitan Police’s reply to Channel Four Dispatches that Sir Cyril Smith visited the venue. As for Leon Brittan, the identification that he is alleged to have visited the venue come not from survivors or any list compiled by anybody but from enraged residents of this posh Barnes road. They say they spotted  both him  and at other times boys getting out of cars late at night and were fed up with this sort of traffic in a respectable neighbourhood.



17 thoughts on “Can the Independent Child Sex Abuse Inquiry really properly investigate Elm Guest House?

  1. One suspects that the remit of the inquiry is the same as many of the alleged abusers ……”to put it to bed!”

    It is shameful that Richmond Council will not be held to account in any way whatsoever, despite knowing that boys were being taken away overnight, and that abuse had taken place – but still to this day – they remain silent….AND not even questioned about it…..truly shameful!!!!

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  2. The Elm Guesthouse List –

    The documents that Mary Moss put online is only a small fraction of those seized by the police.

    There is another list. This list followed a NAYPIC investigation and some people on the first list, the public one, were eliminated, while many others have never been in the public domain.

    BBC Newsnight has a copy of that list, and it is certainly more accurate than the public list.

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      • Can the inquiry force the BBC to release it? The point I aways ask about the Elm Guest House list, as published on line, is simply if it is made up, who did it and why? If it was to discredit people and make false accusations to get them into trouble, then who possibly could have wanted to implicate such a diverse range of individuals? If it had been all Tory politicians then yes I see a motive. But politicians, police, pop stars, local government etc. I just don’t buy it as faked. No one has ever answered this satisfactorily. Perhaps the inquiry should consider that?


      • It’s amazing what turns up years after this scandal was supposedly put to bed. Summer of 2022 had a long conversation with a retired MPS officer who confirmed the cover-ups with revelations of organised crime figures named and protected, complaints against straight coppers and threats to serving officers made by the spooks if they dared to continue investigations into a back bench MP who has never been named by people like you. On top of this remember what Exaro has in its vaults, that guarantees that some day this cover up will be accepted as one of the most shameful episodes of Policing in the UK


      • “who did it and why? If it was to discredit people and make false accusations to get them into trouble, then who possibly could have wanted to implicate such a diverse range of individuals? Quite simply Colin, it then does not come across as someone playing politics. If I had published a list of Gay Labour politicians in the 1970’s it would be taking as a smear campaign by another party.
        My own conclusion is that some are genuine names of people who attended this establishment, and this does not mean they are guilty as it was a place male prostitutes took their clients (I am led to believe). Others on the lists, may have never attended the place, or even knew about it. So why make lists that can be discredited? The reason is that the organisation who made the lists can offer protection to the individuals who are named on the lists, by discrediting their own lists.
        Then they spread further stories to journalists just to remind the people who need protection THAT THEY BETTER DO AS WE SAY.
        In conclusion it was blackmail by lets say the SS, so that people did what they where told otherwise the lists may start to have more credibility. The question no-one asks is who really made the lists, and possibly the one person who can truthfully tell us is dead.


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  5. 1. With reference to Richmond children’s homes at the time – aside from Grafton why not a word about the homes at Rodney Road and Teddington Park? – Stingemore ran those homes as well.
    2. The files taken by Fernbridge off of Richmond’s social services shelves named boys at all three. Did the Police cross reference those names with the all the photos found on Stingemore’s confiscated PC and with other abuse sites?
    3. Finally where did the removed CSA complaint Kingston CID* formerly put on the MPS database for action in 2003?
    * all correspondence, evidence and tape recordings have been kept.


  6. As is often the case with these sad and depraved cases the CPS and other authorities, beg the question will the case run and/or is it in the public interest to continue to investigate?.
    Whether it is historical or occurring now, limiting time on such historic cases is not morally correct in my very humble opinion. Another Catholic priest involved in questionable behaviour, is yet another massive disappointment to the genuine, caring priests out there, doing their best to help others. Makes you become very cynical, sadly.


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